You support Hamas?….Oh good grief Schmook, you have got to be kidding!

First off you connect Hamas with killers, torturers and rapists

Following are excerpts from an address by Hamas MP and cleric Yunis Al-Astal , which aired on Al-Aqsa TV on May 15, 2009
Yunis Al-Astal:2009 It is well known that the Jews are bent on spreading abomination, depravity, and all types of corruption on the face of the Earth. Given that the diseases inflicted by God upon us constitute divine punishment for abomination, crime, and great sins – it is the Jews who are behind most of the abominations. They are the ones who spread obscenity and depravity, as well as brothels, nightclubs, discotheques, cinemas, chalets, casinos, and other devilish dens of temptation. Therefore, people who are afraid of the bestial swine flu should be even more afraid of the measures taken by the Zionist devils, which are more lethal to humanity than pigs. Undoubtedly, the great majority of the Jews deserve to be tormented, because they incurred divine wrath, and Allah cursed them many times in the Koran. Therefore, my advice is that we should be more wary of the schemes and conspiracies of the Jews. The fact that some countries slaughtered their pigs constitutes a modest measure in confronting this danger, as long as those countries maintain intimate, strong ties with the Zionists, whom Allah has decreed to be the brothers of apes and pigs.

Note that last part…..Many countries have slaughtered their pigs….Zionists, whom Allah has decreed the brother of pigs. Hmmm no incitement there.

Here are some links to see just what the democratically elected Hamas get up to:

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?&next_url=/watch%3Feurl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.tomgrossmedia.com%252Fmideastdispatches%252Farchives%252F001039.html%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded%26v%3DDnuDg2316dk

http://www.road90.com/watch.php?id=OrfFEfyK5F

Well done you massive tit!

Do any of you guys have day jobs?
Some of you seem to be here season in season out.

it is no longer 1977, but 2009, and Garaudy’s Holocaust denial should mean that White does not treat Garaudy as a serious author

well – maybe so, and i’m not sure i’d cite him.

But my knowledge of, say, Benny Morris’s recent remark that ‘[t]here are circumstances in history that justify ethnic cleansing’ oesn’t mean that I’d stop reading his earlier work. Just as my knowledge of Ezra Pound’s represensible views on Jews doesn’t mena that I can’t read the poetry he wrote as a young man.

and, again, his citing (not approvingly or otherwise, as ar as I can tell, just as suggested further reading) an article written by someone who later went on to deny the holocaust doesn’t make Ben White an antisemite, and it’s ludicrous to think otherwise. Again, this ‘evidence’ is wafer-thin.

For the record you monstrous tit, Ben White includes in his select bibliography a Roger Garaudy essay.

NEWS FLASH!

If you include something in your bibligography it means you’ve read it and it has informed your writing, it does not mean that you recommend it or even care much for what it says. For example, does every author detailing Hitler and who pops Mein Kampf in their select bibliography recommend you buy Mein Kampf AND support every word in it as right?

No, you pillock, he merely included it in a bibliogrpahy but you thick dolts are so eager to smear people with serious insults you just do so without thought for the implications.

There is one quote in the post that worries me a great deal:

“Garaudy’s Holocaust denial should mean that White does not treat Garaudy as a serious author”

Excuse me? Who made you the fucking arbitar of who is and who isn’t a serious author you pompous fucking toad?

Seriously, how dangerously judgemental of you. Shakespeare was a terrible bigot and sexist moron whose works offend me but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t be taken as a serious author. Louis Ferndinand Celine dabbled with anti-Semitism but also happened to write some damn fine fiction, good grief, people hold all kinds of backward views, like you for example BUT one would hope that an open mind is kept and that to judge all of your writing by your grotesque desire to smear people as anti-semites would not do all of it justice.

Utterly mental, the lot of you.

Get a life and do something useful with it you tool.

On Roger Garaudy and Ben White – Thank you guys!

Spot on, that seems to be all the chanters of anti-Semite can bring to the table, a sense that they must convince themselves and I find it odd that when their linked articles bring no damning confirmation you’d think they’d understand that Ben White as anti-Semite will take a lot more than what they put forward.

But still they come and speaking of which, here is Bennett once again, trolling around in a thread that is done with.

That’s part of the problem. Nazis are anti-semitic for sure and the fascists are scum. But that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t take on antisemitism on the liberal left or any other place. If Nick Griffin had written Ben White’s piece on AHmadinejad then nobody on the left would have defended him. This should be ABC but some people such as yourself and Sunny are in denial when it’s from the left.

on general British, rather English, antisemitism, fascism and racist hysteria vis-a-vis Israel, and Jews, as the author clearly suggests

are all absolutely terrible. full of mob hysteria, unproveable assertions, really very dodgy stuff if you unpick them, sleight of hand and libellous nonsense – and almost everything is firmly out of context. the last one, described in the quotation above, is probably the worst of the lot. actually, that’s wrong – the stuff on ’seismic’ and ‘modernity’ is worse. But thse people re just amateur anthusiasts who just happen to pay for their own websites, so hey-ho, not much better should be expected i guess.

If this is what the antisemitism mudslingers think is good writing then i pity them. All to often, as this thread shows, if people have decided someone is an antisemite, they will recourse to absolutely anything for proof, and will try absolutely anything to achieve ‘victory in argument’.

that type of crap works on harrys place and sundry other poor-quality websites, awash with hysteria and people woh identify antisemitism in places such as pizzas. but it won’t work here, and it hasn’t.

those calling ben white an antisemite only manage to convince themselves. And i think that says it all.

You seem to think that posting articles already posted, as well as other ones not posted will win the argument, not so, all they do is paint a further picture of a swath of people that can’t stand any criticism of Israel and Zionism.

Modernity:

Hello lover! Right, comment 123 is exactly the kind of comment this thread has been full of, link to a blog post or write it in bold, the things you point out (and I’m going to shout this because you don’t seem to listen) DO NOT MAKE BEN WHITE AN ANTI-SEMITE.

Clear? Good.

Seismic:

Kentron has you on the bloke line.

John B and BenSix have it down.

And finally Bennett:

“You couldn’t make it up.”

Indeed you couldn’t sweetheart, you’d think people would get it that an anti-Semitic witch hunt is of no interest here but I tell you what love, come and join me in some proper anti-Semite discovery in my travails against Nazi bigots both here and in France, people truly deserving of some of your ire. You’ll feel a lot better for it trust me!