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		<title>By: Brian O'Rourke</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-182157</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian O'Rourke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @CarlRaincoat: ...and #couslon / #dispatches read my article http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @CarlRaincoat: &#8230;and #couslon / #dispatches read my article <a href="http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/" rel="nofollow">http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Derek Thomas</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-182158</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @CarlRaincoat: ...and #couslon / #dispatches read my article http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @CarlRaincoat: &#8230;and #couslon / #dispatches read my article <a href="http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/" rel="nofollow">http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: The Third Estate</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-182149</link>
		<dc:creator>The Third Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @CarlRaincoat: A piece of mine from last year on #coulsongate http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @CarlRaincoat: A piece of mine from last year on #coulsongate <a href="http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/" rel="nofollow">http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Raincoat Optimism</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-182150</link>
		<dc:creator>Raincoat Optimism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;...and #couslon / #dispatches read my article http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">&#8230;and #couslon / #dispatches read my article <a href="http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/" rel="nofollow">http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Raincoat Optimism</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-182151</link>
		<dc:creator>Raincoat Optimism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 19:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;A piece of mine from last year on #coulsongate http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">A piece of mine from last year on #coulsongate <a href="http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/" rel="nofollow">http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Raincoat Optimism</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-108680</link>
		<dc:creator>Raincoat Optimism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;As I said last yr http://bit.ly/bw5Zg7 on @libcon something fishy about how speedy rightblogs were 2 defend - well, they are wrong, it seems&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">As I said last yr <a href="http://bit.ly/bw5Zg7" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/bw5Zg7</a> on @libcon something fishy about how speedy rightblogs were 2 defend &#8211; well, they are wrong, it seems</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54862</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#I didn&#039;t get that invite in the end...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#I didn&#8217;t get that invite in the end&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: How Tory bloggers spun Coulson &#171; Carl Packman</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54748</link>
		<dc:creator>How Tory bloggers spun Coulson &#171; Carl Packman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There has been an intriguing side-show to Coulsongate / NotW blagging story: the speed at which many Tory bloggers came out to distance themselves from Coulson, to Guido Fawkes who insisted that the Guardian were wasting their time with the whole issue. Yesterday showed that not to be the case at all. (Continue) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There has been an intriguing side-show to Coulsongate / NotW blagging story: the speed at which many Tory bloggers came out to distance themselves from Coulson, to Guido Fawkes who insisted that the Guardian were wasting their time with the whole issue. Yesterday showed that not to be the case at all. (Continue) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Guano</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54664</link>
		<dc:creator>Guano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Mr Staines, for your thoughtful political analysis!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Mr Staines, for your thoughtful political analysis!</p>
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		<title>By: Guido Fawkes</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54653</link>
		<dc:creator>Guido Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That seems a long-winded way of calling me a liar.  

The reason I welcomed Coulson is because Steve Hilton&#039;s touch feely stuff was all very well, but those posh boys and girls at CCHQ needed an Essex boy to give Labour a good kicking.  I actually have spelt out what I thought needed to be done at length in January 08.  Coulson was the one to do it:

Finishing the Project : Making 2008 Dangerous for Brown
http://order-order.com/2008/01/06/making-2008-dangerous-for-brown/

Incidentally I like and defend Kelvin MacKenzie - I don&#039;t recall having met him either.

If you want to believe I&#039;m somebody&#039;s puppet suit yourself.  If you knew me you&#039;d know the idea that I could be controlled is laughable, I don&#039;t even have self-control.  ;)

I&#039;m off on my holidays.  Bye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That seems a long-winded way of calling me a liar.  </p>
<p>The reason I welcomed Coulson is because Steve Hilton&#8217;s touch feely stuff was all very well, but those posh boys and girls at CCHQ needed an Essex boy to give Labour a good kicking.  I actually have spelt out what I thought needed to be done at length in January 08.  Coulson was the one to do it:</p>
<p>Finishing the Project : Making 2008 Dangerous for Brown<br />
<a href="http://order-order.com/2008/01/06/making-2008-dangerous-for-brown/" rel="nofollow">http://order-order.com/2008/01/06/making-2008-dangerous-for-brown/</a></p>
<p>Incidentally I like and defend Kelvin MacKenzie &#8211; I don&#8217;t recall having met him either.</p>
<p>If you want to believe I&#8217;m somebody&#8217;s puppet suit yourself.  If you knew me you&#8217;d know the idea that I could be controlled is laughable, I don&#8217;t even have self-control.  <img src='http://liberalconspiracy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m off on my holidays.  Bye.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54572</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well no Guido, my charge was about the logic of the blog, and how I agreed with your article in CiF and that you persistently turn your back on that premise. But the reason I&#039;m moving the argument on is because we can&#039;t maintain a dialogue with me saying yes you do know him, and you saying you don&#039;t, I&#039;m suggesting that despite I cannot prove it, it seems utterly dubious that a) you defended him against all odds, since I still honestly believe he must have known about the illegal phone-tapping, how could he not, the press complaint&#039;s excuses seem too vague and yet that&#039;s Coulson&#039;s greatest defence, and b) its not paranoid to say that you were in his pockets, so to speak, when he moved to CCHQ, to me it seems not only unlikely that these two elements don&#039;t marry up, but also that this wouldn&#039;t have spurred on some sort of dialogue - one which could influence the way you covered the issue around the time he looked at his most suspect, a time incidentally when Tory bloggers bent over backards to say they didn&#039;t know him, like a group of common criminals claiming to not know their getaway driver.

And if anything, I&#039;m not moving the goalposts, I&#039;m simply buying myself a place in this Westminster drink &lt;a href=&quot;http://order-order.com/2009/07/15/guido-summer-drinks/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;mashup&lt;/a&gt; as the kids say these days!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well no Guido, my charge was about the logic of the blog, and how I agreed with your article in CiF and that you persistently turn your back on that premise. But the reason I&#8217;m moving the argument on is because we can&#8217;t maintain a dialogue with me saying yes you do know him, and you saying you don&#8217;t, I&#8217;m suggesting that despite I cannot prove it, it seems utterly dubious that a) you defended him against all odds, since I still honestly believe he must have known about the illegal phone-tapping, how could he not, the press complaint&#8217;s excuses seem too vague and yet that&#8217;s Coulson&#8217;s greatest defence, and b) its not paranoid to say that you were in his pockets, so to speak, when he moved to CCHQ, to me it seems not only unlikely that these two elements don&#8217;t marry up, but also that this wouldn&#8217;t have spurred on some sort of dialogue &#8211; one which could influence the way you covered the issue around the time he looked at his most suspect, a time incidentally when Tory bloggers bent over backards to say they didn&#8217;t know him, like a group of common criminals claiming to not know their getaway driver.</p>
<p>And if anything, I&#8217;m not moving the goalposts, I&#8217;m simply buying myself a place in this Westminster drink <a href="http://order-order.com/2009/07/15/guido-summer-drinks/" rel="nofollow">mashup</a> as the kids say these days!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alix</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54564</link>
		<dc:creator>Alix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, I see you guys continue to successfully not waste your precious time reading/thinking/writing/talking about Guido and Iain Dale, as you repeatedly injunct one another to do.

There are several psychological terms for what goes on on this blog sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, I see you guys continue to successfully not waste your precious time reading/thinking/writing/talking about Guido and Iain Dale, as you repeatedly injunct one another to do.</p>
<p>There are several psychological terms for what goes on on this blog sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Guido Fawkes</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54454</link>
		<dc:creator>Guido Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is not what your article said.  The premise of your article was just wrong as you now concede by trying to move the goalposts..  You said I was constrained by knowing Coulson.

I don&#039;t know him.  Therefore the charge of hypocrisy on that basis is false.

Now if you want to disagree with me about the Guardian that is entirely different.  But it isn&#039;t hypocrisy, it is a difference of opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is not what your article said.  The premise of your article was just wrong as you now concede by trying to move the goalposts..  You said I was constrained by knowing Coulson.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know him.  Therefore the charge of hypocrisy on that basis is false.</p>
<p>Now if you want to disagree with me about the Guardian that is entirely different.  But it isn&#8217;t hypocrisy, it is a difference of opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54444</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guido, your hypocrisy was to show, in spite of what you said about lobby journalists, that bloggers are constrained too - otherwise you would have speculated on what everyone else was thinking, i.e. surely Andy Coulson as editor knew of the illegal goings-on at NotW, but instead you claimed the whole thing was politically motivated by the Guardian - and that they were going on about it too much. 

In fact, the efforts you and the other Tory bloggers went to in order to try and blame the Guardian for overcooking this scandal, shows that there is a worse problem than the strategic quietness of lobby journos - as pointed out by Andrew Rawnsley, referred to in my entry above. I note that I cannot prove that you know Coulson, but given your loyalty to him on your blog (and your bubblegum-politics similarities) I, and others, do smell a rat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guido, your hypocrisy was to show, in spite of what you said about lobby journalists, that bloggers are constrained too &#8211; otherwise you would have speculated on what everyone else was thinking, i.e. surely Andy Coulson as editor knew of the illegal goings-on at NotW, but instead you claimed the whole thing was politically motivated by the Guardian &#8211; and that they were going on about it too much. </p>
<p>In fact, the efforts you and the other Tory bloggers went to in order to try and blame the Guardian for overcooking this scandal, shows that there is a worse problem than the strategic quietness of lobby journos &#8211; as pointed out by Andrew Rawnsley, referred to in my entry above. I note that I cannot prove that you know Coulson, but given your loyalty to him on your blog (and your bubblegum-politics similarities) I, and others, do smell a rat.</p>
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		<title>By: Guido Fawkes</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54329</link>
		<dc:creator>Guido Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl writes &quot;I’d say the fundamental premise of my entry is that blogs have a certain freedom that lobby journalists don’t, but that a symptom of that freedom is that bloggers are held captive to other constraints, such as knowing someone at the centre of attention.&quot;  You concluded your piece with as &quot;shown by the hypocrisy of Guido, the blogosphere is not immune from the problems that come about by who you know.&quot;

The only problem with your analysis is the fundamental premise as defined by you.  Since I don&#039;t know Andy Coulson, have never spoken with him, never had a drink with him, never emailed him and never had my voicemail hacked by him, I can hardly be constrained by a non-existent relationship.

This &quot;hypocritical&quot; relationship only exists in your imagination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl writes &#8220;I’d say the fundamental premise of my entry is that blogs have a certain freedom that lobby journalists don’t, but that a symptom of that freedom is that bloggers are held captive to other constraints, such as knowing someone at the centre of attention.&#8221;  You concluded your piece with as &#8220;shown by the hypocrisy of Guido, the blogosphere is not immune from the problems that come about by who you know.&#8221;</p>
<p>The only problem with your analysis is the fundamental premise as defined by you.  Since I don&#8217;t know Andy Coulson, have never spoken with him, never had a drink with him, never emailed him and never had my voicemail hacked by him, I can hardly be constrained by a non-existent relationship.</p>
<p>This &#8220;hypocritical&#8221; relationship only exists in your imagination.</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54325</link>
		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why Guido and Dale should be Ignored, Volume 325423.&quot;

But why speculate?

The boy king will be in power in 12 months&#039; time and we&#039;ll see how he (Guido that is) performs, won&#039;t we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why Guido and Dale should be Ignored, Volume 325423.&#8221;</p>
<p>But why speculate?</p>
<p>The boy king will be in power in 12 months&#8217; time and we&#8217;ll see how he (Guido that is) performs, won&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54323</link>
		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure ‘Call me Dave’  will be offering Guido a job in his administration sooner or later.  He can be Dave’s   internet  expert or something.

A knighthood is assured for services to the Conservative party.    I wonder if you  will wear a disguise when you go to receive it, knowing how you like to keep a low profile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure ‘Call me Dave’  will be offering Guido a job in his administration sooner or later.  He can be Dave’s   internet  expert or something.</p>
<p>A knighthood is assured for services to the Conservative party.    I wonder if you  will wear a disguise when you go to receive it, knowing how you like to keep a low profile.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;However if you add up all the rubbish written on LC about me all it amounts to is a waste of pixels&lt;/em&gt;

As you may imagine, I would say the same about the pictures and words written about me on your site. 
Anyway, you poor dear - didn&#039;t know you&#039;d get so upset when someone pointed out how partisan you&#039;re becoming these days. I thought your prided yourself on it.</description>
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<p>As you may imagine, I would say the same about the pictures and words written about me on your site.<br />
Anyway, you poor dear &#8211; didn&#8217;t know you&#8217;d get so upset when someone pointed out how partisan you&#8217;re becoming these days. I thought your prided yourself on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Rhodes</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54317</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Rhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you hate the Labour party so, Paul? Is it you hate New Labour or Labour? How can you base your hatred of the Labour party on a party that is, in effect, a Tory party, New Labour, after all New Labour took on Thatcherite policies and wrapped them in scarlet cloth - wouldn&#039;t you hate the Tory party, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you hate the Labour party so, Paul? Is it you hate New Labour or Labour? How can you base your hatred of the Labour party on a party that is, in effect, a Tory party, New Labour, after all New Labour took on Thatcherite policies and wrapped them in scarlet cloth &#8211; wouldn&#8217;t you hate the Tory party, too?</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54316</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d say the fundamental premise of my entry is that blogs have a certain freedom that lobby journalists don&#039;t, but that a symptom of that freedom is that bloggers are held captive to other constraints, such as knowing someone at the centre of attention. If a document drawn up tomorrow told me everything I thought was wrong, my theoretical premise would still remain true; a call to arms for unrestrained blogging!

Neither do I know, or imagine I know Sunny, I&#039;ve only spoken to him in short emails a couple of times, and I&#039;ve certainly never met him. End quote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say the fundamental premise of my entry is that blogs have a certain freedom that lobby journalists don&#8217;t, but that a symptom of that freedom is that bloggers are held captive to other constraints, such as knowing someone at the centre of attention. If a document drawn up tomorrow told me everything I thought was wrong, my theoretical premise would still remain true; a call to arms for unrestrained blogging!</p>
<p>Neither do I know, or imagine I know Sunny, I&#8217;ve only spoken to him in short emails a couple of times, and I&#8217;ve certainly never met him. End quote.</p>
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		<title>By: Guido Fawkes</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54314</link>
		<dc:creator>Guido Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you know Sunny?  I think you might imagine you do.  However if you add up all the rubbish written on LC about me all it amounts to is a waste of pixels,  Seriously read that article again and consider just how moonbatty it is if the fundamental premise is false.  And false it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know Sunny?  I think you might imagine you do.  However if you add up all the rubbish written on LC about me all it amounts to is a waste of pixels,  Seriously read that article again and consider just how moonbatty it is if the fundamental premise is false.  And false it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54312</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just out of interest Guido, where are your priorities on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://guidoforks.blogspot.com/2007/02/tory-student-leader-in-racist-party.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BNP?&lt;/a&gt;

And I suppose, as it was questioned earlier, if a Tory government were to win come next elections, would your priorities still be with anti-politicians in general, even if that meant busting the heads of mates? Blogs kind of lend themselves to bashing incumbents, will yours follow suit? Because, as a wild guess and prediction, I&#039;d be tempted to say probably not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just out of interest Guido, where are your priorities on the <a href="http://guidoforks.blogspot.com/2007/02/tory-student-leader-in-racist-party.html" rel="nofollow">BNP?</a></p>
<p>And I suppose, as it was questioned earlier, if a Tory government were to win come next elections, would your priorities still be with anti-politicians in general, even if that meant busting the heads of mates? Blogs kind of lend themselves to bashing incumbents, will yours follow suit? Because, as a wild guess and prediction, I&#8217;d be tempted to say probably not.</p>
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		<title>By: rantersparadise</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54304</link>
		<dc:creator>rantersparadise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We’ll see who is more effective against the next government.&quot;

Lol. The Labour party were actually acting as a Tory party but aaanyways, lets pretend that &#039;New&#039; Labour was really about &#039;society&#039; etc etc.

Anyways, we need the clueless Tory party with their neo-con views to come into power create a shock awe kind of disaster, then people can finally get it through their dense and complacents asses that the Tory party should be the minority party as it has NO interest at all in how a realistic society should be governed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We’ll see who is more effective against the next government.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lol. The Labour party were actually acting as a Tory party but aaanyways, lets pretend that &#8216;New&#8217; Labour was really about &#8216;society&#8217; etc etc.</p>
<p>Anyways, we need the clueless Tory party with their neo-con views to come into power create a shock awe kind of disaster, then people can finally get it through their dense and complacents asses that the Tory party should be the minority party as it has NO interest at all in how a realistic society should be governed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54303</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah that&#039;s ok - we know what your priorities and your friends are. We&#039;re just pointing that out.

Why you getting so defensive? Chill out man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah that&#8217;s ok &#8211; we know what your priorities and your friends are. We&#8217;re just pointing that out.</p>
<p>Why you getting so defensive? Chill out man!</p>
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		<title>By: Guido Fawkes</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/07/15/how-tory-bloggers-spun-coulson/#comment-54300</link>
		<dc:creator>Guido Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it is just a question of priorities.</description>
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