Comments on: Miliband should avoid falling for Ahmedinijad’s trap

By: Dunroamin

Dunroamin — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:39:03 +0000

This comment is neither abusive, silly, or sarcastic. But what’s this about the EU threatening war?
I hope it’s not xenophobic to suugest that if the OTHER lot had got in., they wiould be all for working towards a nuclear bomb too, and they may even be up for kidnapping a few people.
Just suppose A. were as daft as Saddam and Comical Ali, should the EU bomb him?
I rather liked the scene in Moore’s ‘Fahrenheit 9/11′ where he confronts various US politician and asks them why, as they are so gung-ho for attacking Saddam, they’re not sending their sons out there to get him?
Sunny? Robert? This isn’t very liberal, is it?
When I was at school the Liberal Brigade only had to hear the term “English foreign policy” in a history lesson when they started sniggering and intoning in what they supposed to be a Victorian tone-of voice, “Oh Yarss! Ah – send a gunboat!”. You must be older than I thought.

By: Charlie

Charlie — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:49:04 +0000

if Milliband wants to put the squeeze on Ahmedinijad would look at the economic option: in particular the bazaaris who provide financial support . The best option would be to ensure no western company sold high tech equipment and especially surveillance equipment (e.g Noka ) to Iran .By preventing Iran obtaining high tech equipment it hinders their development, especially their ability to undertake surveillance on the protestors.

By: Will Rhodes

Will Rhodes — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:02:42 +0000

“:which right-wingers will inevitably demand”

They already have in the US – for some strange reason the ‘pubs/GOP/Conservatives think that bombing the fuck out of Iran will solve the problem. How wrong they are.

All that needs to be said to the bonkers Anadinijahad/fascist bastard/mental case/ murderer – is that we will not comment – he is after what he can get from this fight, if there should be one – and Milibrand just may fall for, not just the nutcase over there, but the nutcases in the UK who want to bomb the daft get.

By: Leon

Leon — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:19:53 +0000

Europe can’t threaten war because it has no army or centralised military command so that’s not an option…

By: Sunny Hundal

Sunny Hundal — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:55:48 +0000

unseen – happy to hear other ideas on how this could progress.

Laban – I’m just merely stating the options available. The fact that declaring war isn’t a viable threat means rather than silly, angry posturing (which right-wingers will inevitably demand) would just play into Ahmedinijad’s hand.

By: Laban Tall

Laban Tall — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:32:36 +0000

“Or the EU could escalate this massively with a real threat of war very quickly …”

To quote Captain Mainwearing : “I think you’re getting into the realms of fantasy there, Corporal …”

By: Lee Griffin

Lee Griffin — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:55:27 +0000

The point Sunny makes is pretty clear to me, Milliband doesn’t need to do any more than to condemn the arrests and treatment of diplomatic staff in Iran, while making it clear that he’ll be doing everything he can to ensure their safety. Doing this rather than making the biggest fuss on national TV in some kind of ego trip against Ahmedinijad means that there is much less opportunity for him to turn aorund to those in the middle ground in Iran and say “look, see, I was right…they are clearly out to get us”.

There are people in Iran doing amazing work to try and get a legitimate and transparent election, if we get all huffy and turn this in to an Iran vs the UK argument then we undermine what they are trying to achieve.

By: Shatterface

Shatterface — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:43:30 +0000

What do you mean by ‘escalate into a bigger show of force’?

Britain isn’t going to launch an attack on Iran because there’s no money in it, and no matter how much the Iranian government might like a conflict with the UK to distract their population they are hardly in a position to declare a war with a European country half way round the world and closely allied to the US.

By: unseen

unseen — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:38:42 +0000

I think there’s a whole range of possibilities between the two you suggest: “not making a big fuss” or “escalate this massively with a real threat of war very quickly”.

By: Denim Justice

Denim Justice — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:35:30 +0000

How can the Foreign Sec not make a big fuss about the fact that the President of another country has ordered the arrest of British diplomatic staff?

If we ignore it, he will just go further and further until we have no option but to resort to option 2.

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