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		<title>By: Joe K</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-52682</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Denim Justice

&#039;Why didn’t you Tories support Dhanda then?

Oh yeah, must be something to do with - well, you know.&#039;

His &#039;colour&#039;?

No, I think it would be down to the fact that he has little credibility in the Commons, as somebody who hotfooted it down from London to throw his hat in when Tess Kingham resigned as Gloucester&#039;s MP. He&#039;s Alastair Campbell without the engaging personality, but he thinks his campaign organising skills transfer to serving a Midlands constituency. 

You really need to meet him to appreciate what a thoroughly unpleasant character he is. I got the chip-on-the-shoulder &#039;Is it because of my colour&#039; spiel too. Not often Prince Philip and I agree on something... 

By the way, I link to PD&#039;s blog, to give more people an opportunity to savour his risible efforts at blogging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Denim Justice</p>
<p>&#8216;Why didn’t you Tories support Dhanda then?</p>
<p>Oh yeah, must be something to do with &#8211; well, you know.&#8217;</p>
<p>His &#8216;colour&#8217;?</p>
<p>No, I think it would be down to the fact that he has little credibility in the Commons, as somebody who hotfooted it down from London to throw his hat in when Tess Kingham resigned as Gloucester&#8217;s MP. He&#8217;s Alastair Campbell without the engaging personality, but he thinks his campaign organising skills transfer to serving a Midlands constituency. </p>
<p>You really need to meet him to appreciate what a thoroughly unpleasant character he is. I got the chip-on-the-shoulder &#8216;Is it because of my colour&#8217; spiel too. Not often Prince Philip and I agree on something&#8230; </p>
<p>By the way, I link to PD&#8217;s blog, to give more people an opportunity to savour his risible efforts at blogging.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51703</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>57. Sally you accuse the Tories of being brownshirts . Which party had more members with medals for gallantry for fighting the nazis in the post WW2, Hof C/ H of L? In Thatchers Cabinet, Whitelaw, Pym and Carrington  won the Military Cross. Please name the Labour MPs and Lords with medals for of gallantry awarded for fighting the Axis Powers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>57. Sally you accuse the Tories of being brownshirts . Which party had more members with medals for gallantry for fighting the nazis in the post WW2, Hof C/ H of L? In Thatchers Cabinet, Whitelaw, Pym and Carrington  won the Military Cross. Please name the Labour MPs and Lords with medals for of gallantry awarded for fighting the Axis Powers.</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51517</link>
		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.

Can we take it that you are a Tory troll yourself, as others have suggested?
You must be computer generated, surely?

There is no other explanation for your speak-your-weight style:

brownshirt - scum - nazi - tory - troll - fascist - jackboot - brownshirt - scum - nazi - tory - troll - fascist - jackboot - brownshirt - scum - nazi - tory - troll - fascist - jackboot

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.</p>
<p>Can we take it that you are a Tory troll yourself, as others have suggested?<br />
You must be computer generated, surely?</p>
<p>There is no other explanation for your speak-your-weight style:</p>
<p>brownshirt &#8211; scum &#8211; nazi &#8211; tory &#8211; troll &#8211; fascist &#8211; jackboot &#8211; brownshirt &#8211; scum &#8211; nazi &#8211; tory &#8211; troll &#8211; fascist &#8211; jackboot &#8211; brownshirt &#8211; scum &#8211; nazi &#8211; tory &#8211; troll &#8211; fascist &#8211; jackboot</p>
<p>(repeat ad nauseam)</p>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51508</link>
		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>59  So we can take it that you are not telling the truth when you say you are not a tory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>59  So we can take it that you are not telling the truth when you say you are not a tory.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51470</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Also, his socially left-wing views represent the preoccupations of the metropolitan class and not the concerns of ordinary tory or labour voters.&lt;/i&gt;

The fact that you think Bercow is socially left-wing, as do most Tories, shows how out of touch they are on social issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Also, his socially left-wing views represent the preoccupations of the metropolitan class and not the concerns of ordinary tory or labour voters.</i></p>
<p>The fact that you think Bercow is socially left-wing, as do most Tories, shows how out of touch they are on social issues.</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51459</link>
		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Then why are you on here every day pushing Tory party talking points then troll? &lt;/i&gt;

To please you, pottymouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Then why are you on here every day pushing Tory party talking points then troll? </i></p>
<p>To please you, pottymouth.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim J</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51458</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>57 - Remarkable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>57 &#8211; Remarkable.</p>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51456</link>
		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I belkieve every word.

The Tory party is is full of  brownshirts. . Always has been, and always will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I belkieve every word.</p>
<p>The Tory party is is full of  brownshirts. . Always has been, and always will be.</p>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51455</link>
		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cjcjc  &quot;(1) I am not a Tory&quot;
 

Then why are you on here every day pushing Tory party talking points then troll?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cjcjc  &#8220;(1) I am not a Tory&#8221;</p>
<p>Then why are you on here every day pushing Tory party talking points then troll?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim J</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51454</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>52 - moderately entertaining, though there remains the ghastly thought that you might actually believe this piffle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>52 &#8211; moderately entertaining, though there remains the ghastly thought that you might actually believe this piffle.</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51453</link>
		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; The brown shirts don’t want to reform parliament, they just want to control it. &lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t know what colour the Labour shirts are, but they have taken the executive control of parliament further than anyone.

Let&#039;s hope Bercow rolls that back anyway.  We&#039;ll soon find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> The brown shirts don’t want to reform parliament, they just want to control it. </i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what colour the Labour shirts are, but they have taken the executive control of parliament further than anyone.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s hope Bercow rolls that back anyway.  We&#8217;ll soon find out.</p>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51452</link>
		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Labour laughed, the Tories didn’t.&quot;

That is because Conservatives have no sense of hunour. They think have but they don&#039;t.  Just public schoolboy humour which is no humour at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Labour laughed, the Tories didn’t.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is because Conservatives have no sense of hunour. They think have but they don&#8217;t.  Just public schoolboy humour which is no humour at all.</p>
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		<title>By: sally</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51451</link>
		<dc:creator>sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tory brown shirts are really showing their true colours over  the speaker vote. 

The brown shirts don’t want to reform parliament,  they just want to control it. The Tories wanted a Cameron toady who would be biased to the Tory leadership. When a Tory says he wants an independent speaker you know they are lying through their teeth.  Like all the tory trolls on here.

Having seen the brown shirt, jack boot wearing fascist that Cameron has now got into bed with in Europe and the Tory party in Parliament wanting a signed up brown shirt to be speaker it is clear  that fascism is coming to Britain under a Cameron Govt..

What   Nadine Dorries  the Eva   Braun of the modern Tory party is saying today is that Labour Mps should have voted for a Cameron  ass licker.  Says all you need to know about her,  and the Dale Conservative brown shirts.


50 &quot;Well hasn’t Cameron too veered from the right into some kind of comfy cosy centric Tory, or is it an illusion to deceive the people of this country.&quot;

It is all an act. Cameron is a far right wing  Conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tory brown shirts are really showing their true colours over  the speaker vote. </p>
<p>The brown shirts don’t want to reform parliament,  they just want to control it. The Tories wanted a Cameron toady who would be biased to the Tory leadership. When a Tory says he wants an independent speaker you know they are lying through their teeth.  Like all the tory trolls on here.</p>
<p>Having seen the brown shirt, jack boot wearing fascist that Cameron has now got into bed with in Europe and the Tory party in Parliament wanting a signed up brown shirt to be speaker it is clear  that fascism is coming to Britain under a Cameron Govt..</p>
<p>What   Nadine Dorries  the Eva   Braun of the modern Tory party is saying today is that Labour Mps should have voted for a Cameron  ass licker.  Says all you need to know about her,  and the Dale Conservative brown shirts.</p>
<p>50 &#8220;Well hasn’t Cameron too veered from the right into some kind of comfy cosy centric Tory, or is it an illusion to deceive the people of this country.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is all an act. Cameron is a far right wing  Conservative.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They don’t like Bercow because he has changed his views dramatically from the right of the Tories to the centre&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t think this is quite right. They don&#039;t like him because, while changing his views dramatically etc etc, he has systematically greased up to Labour ministers (helpful interjections in debates, little notes congratulating them on the brilliance of their speeches etc) and been unnecessarily offensive to fellow conservatives.  Just by way of illustration, he started his hustings speech with a rather cruel impersonation of Sir Peter Tapsell, who was sitting eight places down from him.  Labour laughed, the Tories didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>They don’t like Bercow because he has changed his views dramatically from the right of the Tories to the centre</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think this is quite right. They don&#8217;t like him because, while changing his views dramatically etc etc, he has systematically greased up to Labour ministers (helpful interjections in debates, little notes congratulating them on the brilliance of their speeches etc) and been unnecessarily offensive to fellow conservatives.  Just by way of illustration, he started his hustings speech with a rather cruel impersonation of Sir Peter Tapsell, who was sitting eight places down from him.  Labour laughed, the Tories didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve M</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51448</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They don&#039;t like Bercow because he has changed his views dramatically from the right of the Tories to the centre.  A turncoat as a lot of Tories put it.  Well hasn&#039;t Cameron too veered from the right into some kind of comfy cosy centric Tory, or is it an illusion to deceive the people of this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They don&#8217;t like Bercow because he has changed his views dramatically from the right of the Tories to the centre.  A turncoat as a lot of Tories put it.  Well hasn&#8217;t Cameron too veered from the right into some kind of comfy cosy centric Tory, or is it an illusion to deceive the people of this country.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51446</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@47 I can see what you&#039;re getting at but it does seem to me to be pushing it a bit to blame the Labour MPs wholly for which Tory MP got the job.  If the Tory party hated Bercow so much couldn&#039;t they have persuaded him not to stand?  Or backed a Labour/LibDem candidate to keep him out?
I personally would have liked Anne Widdicombe to win but mainly for the entertainment value it would have afforded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@47 I can see what you&#8217;re getting at but it does seem to me to be pushing it a bit to blame the Labour MPs wholly for which Tory MP got the job.  If the Tory party hated Bercow so much couldn&#8217;t they have persuaded him not to stand?  Or backed a Labour/LibDem candidate to keep him out?<br />
I personally would have liked Anne Widdicombe to win but mainly for the entertainment value it would have afforded.</p>
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		<title>By: john b</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51442</link>
		<dc:creator>john b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@47 &quot;&lt;i&gt;his socially left-wing views represent the preoccupations of the metropolitan class and not the concerns of ordinary tory or labour voters.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; - if only we could say the same for the other 645...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@47 &#8220;<i>his socially left-wing views represent the preoccupations of the metropolitan class and not the concerns of ordinary tory or labour voters.</i>&#8221; &#8211; if only we could say the same for the other 645&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Redford</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51427</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Redford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yes, it’s so tribal to elect someone who isn’t a member of your own party and who only the most Republican-lite Tories really hate.&quot;

Bercow is despised not just by tory MPs. He is rightly hated by many people outside Parliament who have had dealings with him. Also, his socially left-wing views represent the preoccupations of the metropolitan class and not the concerns of ordinary tory or labour voters. 

Parliament is at probably its lowest point in history, rightly despised by good people.  There was clearly a need for a principled, non-partisan figure who could restore the institution. How typical that Labour MPs, could not lift their aspirations above the gutter relied on their in-built majority to force through their choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yes, it’s so tribal to elect someone who isn’t a member of your own party and who only the most Republican-lite Tories really hate.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bercow is despised not just by tory MPs. He is rightly hated by many people outside Parliament who have had dealings with him. Also, his socially left-wing views represent the preoccupations of the metropolitan class and not the concerns of ordinary tory or labour voters. </p>
<p>Parliament is at probably its lowest point in history, rightly despised by good people.  There was clearly a need for a principled, non-partisan figure who could restore the institution. How typical that Labour MPs, could not lift their aspirations above the gutter relied on their in-built majority to force through their choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jono</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51426</link>
		<dc:creator>Jono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 10:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Will Bercow clean up the expenses and pay fiasco?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
He cannot, because it has already been taken out of the hands of the Speaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Will Bercow clean up the expenses and pay fiasco?</p></blockquote>
<p>He cannot, because it has already been taken out of the hands of the Speaker.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51414</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Bercow clean up the expenses and pay fiasco? I doubt it. Widdicombe had a good record on expenses and only wanted to stand for 10 months. In that time she could have encouraged a cleaning up of the system without being worried about being loathed  as she was going to stand down at the next GE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Bercow clean up the expenses and pay fiasco? I doubt it. Widdicombe had a good record on expenses and only wanted to stand for 10 months. In that time she could have encouraged a cleaning up of the system without being worried about being loathed  as she was going to stand down at the next GE.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;who only the most Republican-lite Tories really hate&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He got, at most, half a dozen Tory votes.  He is more disliked by the Tory Party than the overwhelming majority of Labour MPs are.  He could find one Tory to nominate him out of fifteen nominators.  His campaign manager was Martin Salter.  He began his husting speech by taking the piss out of a Tory MP.

&lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; don&#039;t care particularly, but to deny that he is disliked by the parliamentary party is deluded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>who only the most Republican-lite Tories really hate</p></blockquote>
<p>He got, at most, half a dozen Tory votes.  He is more disliked by the Tory Party than the overwhelming majority of Labour MPs are.  He could find one Tory to nominate him out of fifteen nominators.  His campaign manager was Martin Salter.  He began his husting speech by taking the piss out of a Tory MP.</p>
<p><i>I</i> don&#8217;t care particularly, but to deny that he is disliked by the parliamentary party is deluded.</p>
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		<title>By: tim f</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim f</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s so tribal to elect someone who isn&#039;t a member of your own party and who.only the most Republican-lite Tories really hate.

He wouldn&#039;t have been my choice either, but if Labour MPs were picking someone to annoy Tories they&#039;d have made Dennis Skinner the Speaker (and that I&#039;d have liked to see; there probably isn&#039;t anyone cleaner on expenses either; maybe if it wasn&#039;t for his health....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s so tribal to elect someone who isn&#8217;t a member of your own party and who.only the most Republican-lite Tories really hate.</p>
<p>He wouldn&#8217;t have been my choice either, but if Labour MPs were picking someone to annoy Tories they&#8217;d have made Dennis Skinner the Speaker (and that I&#8217;d have liked to see; there probably isn&#8217;t anyone cleaner on expenses either; maybe if it wasn&#8217;t for his health&#8230;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim J</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51408</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As a member of the armchair ‘anyone but Young’ lobby I suppose I am happy, but, Sunny, one should add that this result will upset many many Tories, and that’s good enough for me.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure you&#039;re not an MP?  Choosing a speaker in order to annoy the opposition doesn&#039;t exactly have an auspicious pedigree (Mr Martin?), and the glee that many in Labour are showing at getting one over on the Tories is pretty unedifying.

However, a couple of things.  Firstly, make the most of it lads.  There&#039;s at most a year left before you&#039;re out, and the Tories are in.  &quot;We are the masters now.&quot;  And having shown such tribal pettiness right up to the end, Labour can hardly complain when the Tories do the same.  What goes around...

And the second point is that John Bercow has shown loyalty to no-one unless there&#039;s identifiably something in it for him.  He was Torier than the Tories until he got virtually the safest seat in the country.  Then, during 12 years of New Labour rule, he slid closer and closer into the Blairite big tent.  Always praising ministers, always denigrating his own side, who after all had no patronage to offer.  Now, however, he&#039;s the Speaker.  Ain&#039;t no-one going to kick him out this Parliament.  He needs nothing from Labour now.  In fact, the only people he has to worry about are the Tories.  Don&#039;t be surprised to see him change tack.

Oh, and personally, I couldn&#039;t give a monkeys.  He&#039;ll surely be better in the Chamber than Martin was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As a member of the armchair ‘anyone but Young’ lobby I suppose I am happy, but, Sunny, one should add that this result will upset many many Tories, and that’s good enough for me.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure you&#8217;re not an MP?  Choosing a speaker in order to annoy the opposition doesn&#8217;t exactly have an auspicious pedigree (Mr Martin?), and the glee that many in Labour are showing at getting one over on the Tories is pretty unedifying.</p>
<p>However, a couple of things.  Firstly, make the most of it lads.  There&#8217;s at most a year left before you&#8217;re out, and the Tories are in.  &#8220;We are the masters now.&#8221;  And having shown such tribal pettiness right up to the end, Labour can hardly complain when the Tories do the same.  What goes around&#8230;</p>
<p>And the second point is that John Bercow has shown loyalty to no-one unless there&#8217;s identifiably something in it for him.  He was Torier than the Tories until he got virtually the safest seat in the country.  Then, during 12 years of New Labour rule, he slid closer and closer into the Blairite big tent.  Always praising ministers, always denigrating his own side, who after all had no patronage to offer.  Now, however, he&#8217;s the Speaker.  Ain&#8217;t no-one going to kick him out this Parliament.  He needs nothing from Labour now.  In fact, the only people he has to worry about are the Tories.  Don&#8217;t be surprised to see him change tack.</p>
<p>Oh, and personally, I couldn&#8217;t give a monkeys.  He&#8217;ll surely be better in the Chamber than Martin was.</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51407</link>
		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(1) I am not a Tory
(2) I didn&#039;t have a vote

I don&#039;t know how the deputy Speakers are appointed but it would be good to see Dhanda as one and maybe Young as the other.
The existing deputies came across as rather useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(1) I am not a Tory<br />
(2) I didn&#8217;t have a vote</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how the deputy Speakers are appointed but it would be good to see Dhanda as one and maybe Young as the other.<br />
The existing deputies came across as rather useless.</p>
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		<title>By: Denim Justice</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/22/bercow-is-new-speaker/#comment-51405</link>
		<dc:creator>Denim Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didn&#039;t you Tories support Dhanda then?

Oh yeah, must be something to do with - well, you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t you Tories support Dhanda then?</p>
<p>Oh yeah, must be something to do with &#8211; well, you know.</p>
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