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	<title>Comments on: If only he&#8217;d been Justice Nightjack&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Fellow Traveller</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/17/if-only-hed-been-justice-nightjack/#comment-50755</link>
		<dc:creator>Fellow Traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the two situations resemble one another all that closely. In the Nightjack case, a newspaper had learned the identity of the anonymous person and wanted to reveal it; Nightjack attempted to force the paper by means of a court injunction to not do so. Whereas, with the judges, the Guardian has sought to use the law to force the government to disclose their identities. You&#039;ve got two different questions:

i) Can Bob force Bill to keep his real identity secret should Bill learn it (when Bill has made no prior undertaking to do so)?

ii) Can Bill force Bob (or a trusted third party)  to reveal his identity when  he wants to keep it secret?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the two situations resemble one another all that closely. In the Nightjack case, a newspaper had learned the identity of the anonymous person and wanted to reveal it; Nightjack attempted to force the paper by means of a court injunction to not do so. Whereas, with the judges, the Guardian has sought to use the law to force the government to disclose their identities. You&#8217;ve got two different questions:</p>
<p>i) Can Bob force Bill to keep his real identity secret should Bill learn it (when Bill has made no prior undertaking to do so)?</p>
<p>ii) Can Bill force Bob (or a trusted third party)  to reveal his identity when  he wants to keep it secret?</p>
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		<title>By: Unity</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/17/if-only-hed-been-justice-nightjack/#comment-50662</link>
		<dc:creator>Unity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So who’s going to set up the sack Justice Eady petition on the Number 10 website?&lt;/i&gt;

Paul Dacre?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So who’s going to set up the sack Justice Eady petition on the Number 10 website?</i></p>
<p>Paul Dacre?</p>
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		<title>By: James D</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/17/if-only-hed-been-justice-nightjack/#comment-50642</link>
		<dc:creator>James D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So who&#039;s going to set up the sack Justice Eady petition on the Number 10 website?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So who&#8217;s going to set up the sack Justice Eady petition on the Number 10 website?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Wardman</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/17/if-only-hed-been-justice-nightjack/#comment-50631</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Wardman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;he was a senior copper who was writing about cases

Detective Constable ! 

But I think that in the end the Police have so far been sensible (unlike the Times). They had to act, and this is written warning territory. That is progress from the sacking of Christopher Glamorganshire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;he was a senior copper who was writing about cases</p>
<p>Detective Constable ! </p>
<p>But I think that in the end the Police have so far been sensible (unlike the Times). They had to act, and this is written warning territory. That is progress from the sacking of Christopher Glamorganshire.</p>
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		<title>By: Shatterface</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/17/if-only-hed-been-justice-nightjack/#comment-50598</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatterface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if Nightjack had been briefing the press in secret, perhaps about the &#039;suspicious behaviour&#039; of someone killed by other police officers, you can bet we&#039;d have never heard his real name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if Nightjack had been briefing the press in secret, perhaps about the &#8216;suspicious behaviour&#8217; of someone killed by other police officers, you can bet we&#8217;d have never heard his real name.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Rhodes</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/17/if-only-hed-been-justice-nightjack/#comment-50548</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Rhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never reading nightjack&#039;s blog I dunno if it was lagit to publish his name or not - but from what I read here he was a senior copper who was writing about cases, is it right for him to do that? 

What I do know is that the UK needs one hell of a shake up. Looking in from outside you can see where people get the idea that the place is still medieval. 

The rulers rule with what looks like an iron fist, and parliament is nothing more than a sounding board for the monarchy, or is the sovereign itself. No one, and I do mean no one can see why MPs, judges, Lord&#039;s, police etc can get away with what they do. Some even have said &quot;Will our country really get as bad as the UK&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never reading nightjack&#8217;s blog I dunno if it was lagit to publish his name or not &#8211; but from what I read here he was a senior copper who was writing about cases, is it right for him to do that? </p>
<p>What I do know is that the UK needs one hell of a shake up. Looking in from outside you can see where people get the idea that the place is still medieval. </p>
<p>The rulers rule with what looks like an iron fist, and parliament is nothing more than a sounding board for the monarchy, or is the sovereign itself. No one, and I do mean no one can see why MPs, judges, Lord&#8217;s, police etc can get away with what they do. Some even have said &#8220;Will our country really get as bad as the UK&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/17/if-only-hed-been-justice-nightjack/#comment-50542</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that the public interest in details of members of judiciary would more, than those of a blogger-by-night. But why would it be necessary? Those who wrote in disgust (Iain Dale, Hopi Sen, Old Holbron, myself) at the decision by Justice Eady and Patrick Foster at the Times did so in support of anonymity. Unless strictly necessary - like it was a matter of life and death - anonymity should be bestowed upon all who have done nothing to deserve the contrary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that the public interest in details of members of judiciary would more, than those of a blogger-by-night. But why would it be necessary? Those who wrote in disgust (Iain Dale, Hopi Sen, Old Holbron, myself) at the decision by Justice Eady and Patrick Foster at the Times did so in support of anonymity. Unless strictly necessary &#8211; like it was a matter of life and death &#8211; anonymity should be bestowed upon all who have done nothing to deserve the contrary.</p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Conspiracy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/06/17/if-only-hed-been-justice-nightjack/#comment-78488</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;New post: If only he&#039;d been Justice Nightjack... http://bit.ly/1513n5&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">New post: If only he&#8217;d been Justice Nightjack&#8230; <a href="http://bit.ly/1513n5" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/1513n5</a></span></span></span></p>
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