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	<title>Comments on: Nadine Dorries: an enemy of science?</title>
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		<title>By: Alan Henness</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-86394</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Henness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Could have been worse. Nadine Dorries is on the Select Committee, but didn&#039;t turn up. http://is.gd/53oQf http://is.gd/53oWR #evcheck&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Could have been worse. Nadine Dorries is on the Select Committee, but didn&#39;t turn up. <a href="http://is.gd/53oQf" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/53oQf</a> <a href="http://is.gd/53oWR" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/53oWR</a> #evcheck</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Phillips-White</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-86395</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Phillips-White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @PeterBowers: @cjmckeon @T_P_W This is the woman who thinks Trident isn&#039;t a WMD http://bit.ly/Cdyub&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @PeterBowers: @cjmckeon @T_P_W This is the woman who thinks Trident isn&#8217;t a WMD <a href="http://bit.ly/Cdyub" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Cdyub</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Pete B</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-75977</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@cjmckeon @T_P_W This is the woman who thinks Trident isn&#039;t a WMD http://bit.ly/Cdyub&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/peterbowers/status/3985296347&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@cjmckeon @T_P_W This is the woman who thinks Trident isn&#8217;t a WMD <a href="http://bit.ly/Cdyub" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Cdyub</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/peterbowers/status/3985296347">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Tim Phillips-White</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-75976</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Phillips-White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @PeterBowers: @cjmckeon @T_P_W This is the woman who thinks Trident isn&#039;t a WMD http://bit.ly/Cdyub&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/t_p_w/status/3985348933&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @PeterBowers: @cjmckeon @T_P_W This is the woman who thinks Trident isn&#8217;t a WMD <a href="http://bit.ly/Cdyub" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Cdyub</a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Pete B</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-76096</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@cjmckeon @T_P_W This is the woman who thinks Trident isn&#039;t a WMD http://bit.ly/Cdyub&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/peterbowers/status/3985296347&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@cjmckeon @T_P_W This is the woman who thinks Trident isn&#8217;t a WMD <a href="http://bit.ly/Cdyub" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Cdyub</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/peterbowers/status/3985296347">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Pete Bowers</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-85403</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Bowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@cjmckeon @T_P_W This is the woman who thinks Trident isn&#039;t a WMD http://bit.ly/Cdyub&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@cjmckeon @T_P_W This is the woman who thinks Trident isn&#8217;t a WMD <a href="http://bit.ly/Cdyub" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Cdyub</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Jackie McGhee</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-75978</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie McGhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;http://is.gd/1d2UD - Name names or it didn&#039;t happen. You&#039;ve been caught out too many times already Dorries. http://is.gd/1d38I&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/jackiemcghee/status/2325734949&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content"><a href="http://is.gd/1d2UD" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/1d2UD</a> &#8211; Name names or it didn&#8217;t happen. You&#8217;ve been caught out too many times already Dorries. <a href="http://is.gd/1d38I" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/1d38I</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/jackiemcghee/status/2325734949">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Jackie McGhee</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-77879</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie McGhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;http://is.gd/1d2UD - Name names or it didn&#039;t happen. You&#039;ve been caught out too many times already Dorries. http://is.gd/1d38I&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/jackiemcghee/status/2325734949&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content"><a href="http://is.gd/1d2UD" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/1d2UD</a> &#8211; Name names or it didn&#8217;t happen. You&#8217;ve been caught out too many times already Dorries. <a href="http://is.gd/1d38I" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/1d38I</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/jackiemcghee/status/2325734949">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: I will defend Nadine Dorries&#8217; right to make a total and utter berk of herself&#8230; - Chicken Yoghurt</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-47221</link>
		<dc:creator>I will defend Nadine Dorries&#8217; right to make a total and utter berk of herself&#8230; - Chicken Yoghurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 16:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Daily Telegraph lawyers take incoherent gobshite and toe-curling political embarrassment Nadine Dorries&#8217; blog offline after she makes certain [...]</description>
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		<title>By: In support of Nadine Dorries &#171; Hundreds and Thousands (on the trifle of life)</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-47144</link>
		<dc:creator>In support of Nadine Dorries &#171; Hundreds and Thousands (on the trifle of life)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 15:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nad may be spectacularly stupid on occasion - &#8216;Tridents (sic) are not weapons of mass destruction&#8217; and, as an ex-nurse, can&#8217;t appreciate that an anaesthetised foetus is a direct consequence of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nad may be spectacularly stupid on occasion &#8211; &#8216;Tridents (sic) are not weapons of mass destruction&#8217; and, as an ex-nurse, can&#8217;t appreciate that an anaesthetised foetus is a direct consequence of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PD Smith</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-75979</link>
		<dc:creator>PD Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 08:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;“Tridents are not weapons of mass destruction”:  Nadine Dorries  http://is.gd/Cjfn (via @kirstymch @bloggerheads)&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/pd_smith/status/1880642377&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">“Tridents are not weapons of mass destruction”:  Nadine Dorries  <a href="http://is.gd/Cjfn" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/Cjfn</a> (via @kirstymch @bloggerheads)</span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/pd_smith/status/1880642377">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Kirsty McHugh</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-75980</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirsty McHugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 08:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Excellent blog take-down of Nadine Dorries: http://is.gd/Cjfn (via @bloggerheads)&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/kirstymch/status/1880602563&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Excellent blog take-down of Nadine Dorries: <a href="http://is.gd/Cjfn" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/Cjfn</a> (via @bloggerheads)</span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/kirstymch/status/1880602563">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Tim Ireland</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-75981</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 08:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @samuelcoates Nadine Dorries is a monster that must be destroyed: http://bit.ly/Cf50g&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/bloggerheads/status/&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @samuelcoates Nadine Dorries is a monster that must be destroyed: <a href="http://bit.ly/Cf50g" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Cf50g</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/bloggerheads/status/">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Blair Cowan</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-75982</link>
		<dc:creator>Blair Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 08:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@samuelcoates Nadine Dorries is a monster that must be destroyed: http://bit.ly/Cf50g&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/fluffymug/status/1880527476&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@samuelcoates Nadine Dorries is a monster that must be destroyed: <a href="http://bit.ly/Cf50g" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Cf50g</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/fluffymug/status/1880527476">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: PD Smith</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-81829</link>
		<dc:creator>PD Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;“Tridents are not weapons of mass destruction”:  Nadine Dorries  http://is.gd/Cjfn (via @kirstymch @bloggerheads)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">“Tridents are not weapons of mass destruction”:  Nadine Dorries  <a href="http://is.gd/Cjfn" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/Cjfn</a> (via @kirstymch @bloggerheads)</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Kirsty McHugh</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-78875</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirsty McHugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Excellent blog take-down of Nadine Dorries: http://is.gd/Cjfn (via @bloggerheads)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Excellent blog take-down of Nadine Dorries: <a href="http://is.gd/Cjfn" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/Cjfn</a> (via @bloggerheads)</span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Ireland</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-79122</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @samuelcoates Nadine Dorries is a monster that must be destroyed: http://bit.ly/Cf50g&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @samuelcoates Nadine Dorries is a monster that must be destroyed: <a href="http://bit.ly/Cf50g" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Cf50g</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Blair Cowan</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-79552</link>
		<dc:creator>Blair Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 01:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@samuelcoates Nadine Dorries is a monster that must be destroyed: http://bit.ly/Cf50g&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@samuelcoates Nadine Dorries is a monster that must be destroyed: <a href="http://bit.ly/Cf50g" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Cf50g</a></span></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-46815</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@naomimc: &lt;i&gt;&quot;But also pleased don’t be fooled. She is not using the scientific arguments rather than moral ones because she’s stupid (which of course she is but that’s another matter). This is a tactic used very successfully in the US - to chip away at the right to abortion by increment.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I think one of the signs of this is with her use of the opinion poll above, where she took a poll that actually supported quite tough restrictions on abortion (to &lt;20 weeks, although I would dispute the polls motives and methodology since it was by Christian activists), and &quot;sanitised&quot; it to claim that the support was for 20 weeks. 

Nadine seems to be a focal point for the religious right (who contrary to an earlier commenter&#039;s views are actually getting quite influential here) to try and push several different views into parliament, ranging from religious freedom laws to abortion to equality for homosexuals. In each case, she seems to act as the sort of thin end of a wedge, presenting slightly moderated versions of their agenda in a form that makes them palatable enough to gain a toe-hold in the Commons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@naomimc: <i>&#8220;But also pleased don’t be fooled. She is not using the scientific arguments rather than moral ones because she’s stupid (which of course she is but that’s another matter). This is a tactic used very successfully in the US &#8211; to chip away at the right to abortion by increment.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I think one of the signs of this is with her use of the opinion poll above, where she took a poll that actually supported quite tough restrictions on abortion (to &lt;20 weeks, although I would dispute the polls motives and methodology since it was by Christian activists), and &#8220;sanitised&#8221; it to claim that the support was for 20 weeks. </p>
<p>Nadine seems to be a focal point for the religious right (who contrary to an earlier commenter&#8217;s views are actually getting quite influential here) to try and push several different views into parliament, ranging from religious freedom laws to abortion to equality for homosexuals. In each case, she seems to act as the sort of thin end of a wedge, presenting slightly moderated versions of their agenda in a form that makes them palatable enough to gain a toe-hold in the Commons.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-46813</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@NaomiMC Very well said.</description>
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		<title>By: NaomiMc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-46746</link>
		<dc:creator>NaomiMc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 08:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richard: “She would have more luck if she was to simply make a moral case against abortion.”

@Shatterface : &quot;Still, medical concerns aside, abortion is a moral matter and not something which will be decided in the laboratory. &quot;

On abortion and morality. The committee inquiry covered by Ben Goldacre and referred to by Martin in this article was a scientific matter not moral. It was about lowering time limits for abortion and whether scientific advancements had made the case for this. The case was not made and much of the &#039;evidence&#039; provided which claimed to show a scientific basis for lowering the limits actually came from religiously-funded organisations. Of course at Westminster those giving evidence did not have to declare their religious affiliation but luckily they were exposed here: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/oct/15/sciencenews.medicineandhealth

Abortion is not just a moral matter, although I acknowledge that given the strength of feeling in society &#039;morality&#039; should be considered. Instead, it is a public health issue. Approx. 67,000 deaths of women occur globally every year due to unsafe abortion. In Nicaragua where abortion is outlawed in all circumstances, health professionals have suffered the chilling effect where they are too scared to even perform routine gynaecological examinations in case they are charged with abortion. Nicaragua has been taken to the UN Committee against Torture on the basis of their abortion laws amounting to torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment: http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/nicaragua-complete-ban-abortion-violates-torture-convention-20090515

So yes, if you consider torture a moral matter than the denial of safe and legal abortion services is also a moral matter.

But also pleased don&#039;t be fooled. She is not using the scientific arguments rather than moral ones because she&#039;s stupid (which of course she is but that&#039;s another matter). This is a tactic used very successfully in the US - to chip away at the right to abortion by increment. Lowering time limits, reducing services, enforcing health professionals read out &#039;warnings&#039; to women before a termination, &#039;cooling off&#039; periods, parental consent, arguing against the licensing of drugs for chemical terminations with the regulators - all of these mount up to a restriction of rights and access to healthcare for women. And they are all being made by religiously motivated zealots.

I don&#039;t think the UK will ever go the way of the US on the abortion issue, but there are definitely those out there that want the same debate started over here and have tried repeatedly to use the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill to do it. And its not gone away...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard: “She would have more luck if she was to simply make a moral case against abortion.”</p>
<p>@Shatterface : &#8220;Still, medical concerns aside, abortion is a moral matter and not something which will be decided in the laboratory. &#8221;</p>
<p>On abortion and morality. The committee inquiry covered by Ben Goldacre and referred to by Martin in this article was a scientific matter not moral. It was about lowering time limits for abortion and whether scientific advancements had made the case for this. The case was not made and much of the &#8216;evidence&#8217; provided which claimed to show a scientific basis for lowering the limits actually came from religiously-funded organisations. Of course at Westminster those giving evidence did not have to declare their religious affiliation but luckily they were exposed here: <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/oct/15/sciencenews.medicineandhealth" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/oct/15/sciencenews.medicineandhealth</a></p>
<p>Abortion is not just a moral matter, although I acknowledge that given the strength of feeling in society &#8216;morality&#8217; should be considered. Instead, it is a public health issue. Approx. 67,000 deaths of women occur globally every year due to unsafe abortion. In Nicaragua where abortion is outlawed in all circumstances, health professionals have suffered the chilling effect where they are too scared to even perform routine gynaecological examinations in case they are charged with abortion. Nicaragua has been taken to the UN Committee against Torture on the basis of their abortion laws amounting to torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment: <a href="http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/nicaragua-complete-ban-abortion-violates-torture-convention-20090515" rel="nofollow">http://www.amnesty.org/en/for-media/press-releases/nicaragua-complete-ban-abortion-violates-torture-convention-20090515</a></p>
<p>So yes, if you consider torture a moral matter than the denial of safe and legal abortion services is also a moral matter.</p>
<p>But also pleased don&#8217;t be fooled. She is not using the scientific arguments rather than moral ones because she&#8217;s stupid (which of course she is but that&#8217;s another matter). This is a tactic used very successfully in the US &#8211; to chip away at the right to abortion by increment. Lowering time limits, reducing services, enforcing health professionals read out &#8216;warnings&#8217; to women before a termination, &#8216;cooling off&#8217; periods, parental consent, arguing against the licensing of drugs for chemical terminations with the regulators &#8211; all of these mount up to a restriction of rights and access to healthcare for women. And they are all being made by religiously motivated zealots.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the UK will ever go the way of the US on the abortion issue, but there are definitely those out there that want the same debate started over here and have tried repeatedly to use the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill to do it. And its not gone away&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Blair Cowan</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-75983</link>
		<dc:creator>Blair Cowan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 10:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @majsaleh: Nadine Dorries is a monster that must be destroyed: http://bit.ly/Cf50g&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/fluffymug/status/1858011238&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @majsaleh: Nadine Dorries is a monster that must be destroyed: <a href="http://bit.ly/Cf50g" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Cf50g</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/fluffymug/status/1858011238">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: majsaleh</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-75984</link>
		<dc:creator>majsaleh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 10:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Nadine Dorries is a monster that must be destroyed: http://bit.ly/Cf50g&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/majsaleh/status/1858002766&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Nadine Dorries is a monster that must be destroyed: <a href="http://bit.ly/Cf50g" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/Cf50g</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/majsaleh/status/1858002766">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Tim Ireland</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-75985</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 08:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Now with added video goodness- Nadine Dorries: an enemy of science? http://tinyurl.com/p4axq7&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/bloggerheads/status/1857434734&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Now with added video goodness- Nadine Dorries: an enemy of science? <a href="http://tinyurl.com/p4axq7" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/p4axq7</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/bloggerheads/status/1857434734">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Rayyan</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/19/nadine-dorries-an-enemy-of-science/#comment-46557</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 05:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do wonder if reducing the level of pay of MPs by abolishing the ACA and maybe giving them a flat in London OR telling them to slum it with the rest of us and pay for their second home out of their own salary, will result in MPs who either have less life experience or less education.  Whilst this might be a good thing, and there isn&#039;t a direct link between the level of education and intelligence, I would be loathe to let in any more people in the House of Commons who display the sheer stupidity and scientific ignorance of Nadine Dorries.  Is it more a question of common sense, and that no matter how many universities you attend or &quot;life experience&quot; you have, you can still be a total idiot like her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do wonder if reducing the level of pay of MPs by abolishing the ACA and maybe giving them a flat in London OR telling them to slum it with the rest of us and pay for their second home out of their own salary, will result in MPs who either have less life experience or less education.  Whilst this might be a good thing, and there isn&#8217;t a direct link between the level of education and intelligence, I would be loathe to let in any more people in the House of Commons who display the sheer stupidity and scientific ignorance of Nadine Dorries.  Is it more a question of common sense, and that no matter how many universities you attend or &#8220;life experience&#8221; you have, you can still be a total idiot like her?</p>
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