UK: Convert and Misunderstander of Islam gets life sentence for botched jihad attack
hww w.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/jan/31/life-sentence-nail-bomber

USA: Ohio Misunderstander of Islam to plead guilty to joining Al-Qaeda and plotting to bomb resorts and military bases
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080602/ap_on_re_us/overseas_terror_plot

Canada: Misunderstander of Islam had detonators at home
ww w.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=9642cd35-ceff-4c59-b006-bf3e60980b77&k=87068

Iran – Islami scholar and Imam: Ayatollah Khomeini said:
Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled or incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world.

Islamophobes mount multiple suicide attacks in Afghani mosque — no, wait…
story.irishsun.com/index.php/ct/9/cid/2411cd3571b4f088/id/349617/cs/1/

France: Former imam misunderstands Islam, convicted in France for Chechnya-related jihad plot
ww w.kyivpost.com/bn/27830/

Detroit: Anti-Jewish, anti-Christian fliers found on cars – “Kill Jews and Christians if they don’t believe in Allah and Mohammad.”
ww w.macombdaily.com/stories/092807/loc_fliers001.shtml

UK: Allah “loves us to die and kill in his path”
edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/04/10/terror.uk.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

“Trouble is, every time anyone on the left produces evidence that negative attitudes towards Islam are the product of the machinations of a hostile media, rather than inherent features of Islam itself, along comes some Islamophobe to throw a spanner in the works”

I wonder if these people may actually have played a bigger role in creating ‘negative attitudes’ to Islam. This list could have been 10 times as long…

British Convert To Islam Reveals Plot To Kill Saudi King
ww w.rttnews.com/forex/gblnews.asp

Afganistan’s Prez Karzai a Misunderstander of Islam? Signs law “legalizing rape in marriage”
ww w.aina.org/news/2009030793841.htm

Afghanistan: Misunderstander of Islam kills 30 on Kabul bus
news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070929/ts_afp/afghanistanunrestblastkabul_070929115207;_ylt=AvxXSyk_PWbo53tX2sy_PkrOVooA

Singapore: Misunderstander of Islam admits to airport crash plot
ww w.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=3.0.2908517215

German Misunderstander of Islam gets 18 years in prison for synagogue bombing
ww w.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ix8mre8AMWUk9p0n1UGQFIekhULgD965MHO81

Kenya: Misunderstander of Islam blows himself up while clutching Qur’an
ww w.abcmoney.co.uk/news/11200785567.htm

http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/story.aspx?storycode=6504453

Ala Uddin is Spitalfields Housing Vice-Chairman.

No doubt one or other of the MSM will seize on this poll to announce that a majority of young British Muslims don’t think that white kids are good enough to marry theirs. (The poll says 52%)

Perhaps of more interest is the expectation that British Muslims will have effectively integrated (i.e. secularised, if the Jewish experience is any precedent) in three generations – say sixty years. The fact that only 27% look to their religious leaders to “speak for” the British Muslim community (only twice as many as those who expect a non-Muslim to do so!) suggests that this may be an over-estimate of the timescale.

A shame, given the sample size, that there are no subsets (e.g. gender of respondent, education level/employment status, location of family roots etc) but hopefully this will be published later or collected in future surveys.

If the teaching of Darwin was outlawed, if blasphemers were imprisoned or executed, if I was forced to pray to a god I do not believe in, or deny the rights of women and homosexuals, or made to grow a beard (especially the latter: they itch) then I’d say yes, it would be justified to fight.

The question is whether either religious groups are facing such repression – and in the West, at least, they are not.

Slightly strange emphasis on methodological rigour on the one hand, while offering the “four guys from Alum Rock” survey on the other.

There were some odd results there. 98% would accept a gay child, though heaven forfend they date a white kid – 53% oppose that!

The Pew data cited above – a very respectable and long-established charity – seems to suggest that there is less of a problem than the CSC, though a problem nonetheless.

It would be quite amusing to have a survey button on here. Was this a good article yes / no?

I’d vote yes, but you knew that anyway.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/yasmin-alibhaibrown-whod-be-female-under-islamic-law-1678549.html

Taken from; Capacent A / S. Research / Consulting.
Survey taken for DR,News ( Danish Television )

Young Muslims generally have the same attitude to the family model of education and democracy as their parents.
Though the younger generation are much better educated than their parents generation,there is no big difference in their attitudes on a series of important issues.

Denmark,
55% think critizing of religion should be forbidden.
64% support curtailing of free speech.
60% don,t go to a mosque,imams not representative.
18% want to see Sharia law implemented.
and….wait for it……90% would vote for the left,which means we don,t need a cystal ball to figure out ( taking U.N demographic statics into account ), what our futuristic Utopia will be like in 2030,and which political wing is going to win every election.
A strange alliance aye,until one Utopian vision has no use for the other.
And we all know who is going to win that one.
Should this game of cross your fingers,touch wood and swear on Tiny Tims Weekly,
that this dreaded future worse scenerio cannot conceivably take place,be little more than just a slower version of “Russian Roulette”,your apologies Martin Robbins,will not be accepted.
I know which right wing ideology I am more worried about.

http://www.pewglobal.org

Europes Muslims More Moderate; The Great Divide; How Westerners and
Muslims View Each Other.

Released June,2006
The Pew Global Attitudes Project
A Pew Research Center Project

Non-Partisan “fact tank”
Washington D.C.

It would be intersesting to hear if any polls/ surveys have been taken recently on this subject by non-right wing / conservative / neo-con / organisations.
If not,then that in itself should raise a few interesting questions.

And later in this piece you write:

The Daily Mail headline I mentioned above claims that a third of British Muslims think it’s “acceptable to kill for Islam,”

No it doesn’t. It makes claims about Muslim students.

There is a lot more to the CSC that I would like to expose and plan to do so here soon. Douglas Murray isn’t a character I’d really listen to on issues to do with social cohesion since he uses that agenda to push his own goals, which are at cross-purposes with what he claims is his agenda.

I understand that they have ironed them out, though. Agreed with the other issues of survey response bias.

Annoyingly, because of my line of work, I am both very keen to participate in opinion polls, and barred from doing so.

Some people here seem to think the poll was carried out only using people who had iphones. That’s not true. What they were doing was handing an iphone which had the questions on it. You then just clicked A, B or C to each question. It was pretty cool.

I was a bit shocked that they were trusting people with their iphones. Alum Rock isn’t exactly known for being crime-free. I wasn’t sure about them at the time but now I know what they were doing, I say good on them. Its about time our real opinions were counted. We just want to fit in.

Many thanks

I think we’re talking at cross-purposes. The issue is that you can’t make a claim about Group A relative to any other group. You can say that e.g. “group A tend to like red”, but you can’t say that group A have a particular liking of red that other groups don’t have, and that’s all that’s being said in this piece and the subsequent comments.

@Ken “You are eliding the survey itself with the reporting of that survey”

Absolutely I am. The poll was commission specifically to provide the newspaper articles. From the point of view of an exercise by CSC, it was inadequately controlled. From the point of view of YouGov, they simply went and asked the questions they were told to ask – YouGov did not design this poll, the CSC did, and they did it in order to draw conclusions that are not supported by the results.

So, for example: “If you see an opinion poll that is used to make a claim about Group A, then I think it’s very important to see if that conclusion is backed up by adequate comparison with other groups. That’s just common sense, in any field.”

No, because if the survey is sampling Group A, assuming a good sample, it is perfectly adequate to make claims about Group A.

You compound this error in your reply in post 17. “The survey was inadequately controlled”. No. No it wasn’t. All you need say is your final sentence in post 17 – that the results are not adequate to reach the conclusion that Muslims are more violent to reach the conclusion.

You are eliding the survey itself with the reporting of that survey. This is a subtle but important error. If you want to accuse social scientists of methodological error, you need to be very sure of your ground.