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		<title>By: Beautiful - Chicken Yoghurt</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-45754</link>
		<dc:creator>Beautiful - Chicken Yoghurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] letter in this week&#8217;s Private Eye in response to the last issue&#8217;s Hackwatch column about &#8216;Peace Through Media&#8217; award winner* Paul &#8216;Guido Fawkes&#8217; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] letter in this week&#8217;s Private Eye in response to the last issue&#8217;s Hackwatch column about &#8216;Peace Through Media&#8217; award winner* Paul &#8216;Guido Fawkes&#8217; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-44430</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 03:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I can almost hear the desperation in your voice cjcjc :)&quot;

Well, you know, cjcjc might just have a point. I&#039;ve just discovered this blog - Liberal Conspiracy - that only ever seems to publish articles about Guido Fawkes. My guess is that they&#039;re actaully up to about Volume 50 by now. One fellow (&#039;Sunny Hundal&#039;) seems particularly obsessed with the subject:

Thoughts on Damian McBride and Guido
by Sunny Hundal     
April 11, 2009 at 5:26 pm
&quot;Etc…&quot;

Derek Draper is poisonous for the Labour party
by Sunny Hundal     
April 12, 2009 at 4:51 am
“In fact, Derek Draper’s biggest mistake was to try and ape Guido Fawkes... Paul Staines regularly smeared Gordon Brown… didn’t even know enough to catch Staines out on it. This is the man to bring honesty and integrity to politics? Give us a fucking break… Sunder is right in saying the last thing Labour needs is a “red Guido”. .. We, the liberal-left, want more from our side because we aren’t anti-politics like Guido Fakwes and his ilk are…”

Blogging will only increase the sleaze - unless we stop it
by Sunny Hundal     
April 12, 2009 at 4:48 pm
“It is undeniable that many within the Westminster bubble use Guido Fawkes to push their agendas… It is also undeniable that Paul Staines… Guido Fawkes isn’t about to shine a benign light on smears and false-flag operations within Westminster… Otherwise the likes of Derek Draper and Guido Fawkes…”

Hypocrisy Rules Okay
by Unity     
April 13, 2009 at 12:05 pm
“As adverts for political blogging go, the whole Guido vs Draper thing… it places some much needed context on Iain and Guido’s… and Guido, for all his anti-politics shtick…”

So what’s this ‘blogosphere’ thing anyway?
by Jamie Sport     
April 13, 2009 at 9:51 pm
“However, if it hadn’t been for crusading, swivel eyed, right-wing, sleaze-wallowing blogger Guido Fawkes… Fawkes - real name Paul ‘Pee’ Stains - rose to prominance (sic) in 2004 after being declared bankrupt…”

Does Iain Dale know much about blogs?
by Sunny Hundal     
April 14, 2009 at 10:30 am
“Of those blogs, only Guido Fawkes gets over 100,000 visitors a month… rather than being part of a circle-jerk where the same people read Guido, Dale and CH…”

Smearing is such a nasty thing to do
by ‘Guest’    
April 21, 2009 at 2:25 am
“Meanwhile, Staines also gets Osborne’s wife very angry…”

Private Eye on McBride / Guido saga
by Sunny Hundal     
May 1, 2009 at 6:23 pm
“It does a great job of capturing the hypocrisy of all involved… Staines… Staines… Staines… Staines… Staines...”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I can almost hear the desperation in your voice cjcjc <img src='http://liberalconspiracy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> &#8221;</p>
<p>Well, you know, cjcjc might just have a point. I&#8217;ve just discovered this blog &#8211; Liberal Conspiracy &#8211; that only ever seems to publish articles about Guido Fawkes. My guess is that they&#8217;re actaully up to about Volume 50 by now. One fellow (&#8217;Sunny Hundal&#8217;) seems particularly obsessed with the subject:</p>
<p>Thoughts on Damian McBride and Guido<br />
by Sunny Hundal<br />
April 11, 2009 at 5:26 pm<br />
&#8220;Etc…&#8221;</p>
<p>Derek Draper is poisonous for the Labour party<br />
by Sunny Hundal<br />
April 12, 2009 at 4:51 am<br />
“In fact, Derek Draper’s biggest mistake was to try and ape Guido Fawkes&#8230; Paul Staines regularly smeared Gordon Brown… didn’t even know enough to catch Staines out on it. This is the man to bring honesty and integrity to politics? Give us a fucking break… Sunder is right in saying the last thing Labour needs is a “red Guido”. .. We, the liberal-left, want more from our side because we aren’t anti-politics like Guido Fakwes and his ilk are…”</p>
<p>Blogging will only increase the sleaze &#8211; unless we stop it<br />
by Sunny Hundal<br />
April 12, 2009 at 4:48 pm<br />
“It is undeniable that many within the Westminster bubble use Guido Fawkes to push their agendas… It is also undeniable that Paul Staines… Guido Fawkes isn’t about to shine a benign light on smears and false-flag operations within Westminster… Otherwise the likes of Derek Draper and Guido Fawkes…”</p>
<p>Hypocrisy Rules Okay<br />
by Unity<br />
April 13, 2009 at 12:05 pm<br />
“As adverts for political blogging go, the whole Guido vs Draper thing… it places some much needed context on Iain and Guido’s… and Guido, for all his anti-politics shtick…”</p>
<p>So what’s this ‘blogosphere’ thing anyway?<br />
by Jamie Sport<br />
April 13, 2009 at 9:51 pm<br />
“However, if it hadn’t been for crusading, swivel eyed, right-wing, sleaze-wallowing blogger Guido Fawkes… Fawkes &#8211; real name Paul ‘Pee’ Stains &#8211; rose to prominance (sic) in 2004 after being declared bankrupt…”</p>
<p>Does Iain Dale know much about blogs?<br />
by Sunny Hundal<br />
April 14, 2009 at 10:30 am<br />
“Of those blogs, only Guido Fawkes gets over 100,000 visitors a month… rather than being part of a circle-jerk where the same people read Guido, Dale and CH…”</p>
<p>Smearing is such a nasty thing to do<br />
by ‘Guest’<br />
April 21, 2009 at 2:25 am<br />
“Meanwhile, Staines also gets Osborne’s wife very angry…”</p>
<p>Private Eye on McBride / Guido saga<br />
by Sunny Hundal<br />
May 1, 2009 at 6:23 pm<br />
“It does a great job of capturing the hypocrisy of all involved… Staines… Staines… Staines… Staines… Staines&#8230;”</p>
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		<title>By: organic cheeseboard</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-44321</link>
		<dc:creator>organic cheeseboard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 11:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The Private Eye piece is pointing to a virus. That virus is the obsession with personality based journalism, and the willingness to publish unsubstantiated personality-based hatchet jobs than write about real issues. The lobby journalists are all guilty of it&lt;/i&gt;

Problem is, so are private eye...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Private Eye piece is pointing to a virus. That virus is the obsession with personality based journalism, and the willingness to publish unsubstantiated personality-based hatchet jobs than write about real issues. The lobby journalists are all guilty of it</i></p>
<p>Problem is, so are private eye&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: texas</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-44315</link>
		<dc:creator>texas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 22:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MisguidedLiberal

*Looking through the Guido Fawkes archive, the post you’re referring to doesn’t seem to exist. I wonder why.*

http://www.order-order.com/2006/11/charity-commissioners-to-re/

&quot;Now call Guido cynical if you will, but on the day the Charity Commissioners announce their intentions, and the Telegraph articles show the press chase has begun, we learn from a deftly placed story in the government’s favourite mouthpiece, The Sun, that tragically Gordon’s son has cystic fibrosis. A good day to front-page the tragic news?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MisguidedLiberal</p>
<p>*Looking through the Guido Fawkes archive, the post you’re referring to doesn’t seem to exist. I wonder why.*</p>
<p><a href="http://www.order-order.com/2006/11/charity-commissioners-to-re/" rel="nofollow">http://www.order-order.com/2006/11/charity-commissioners-to-re/</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Now call Guido cynical if you will, but on the day the Charity Commissioners announce their intentions, and the Telegraph articles show the press chase has begun, we learn from a deftly placed story in the government’s favourite mouthpiece, The Sun, that tragically Gordon’s son has cystic fibrosis. A good day to front-page the tragic news?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-44310</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 19:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can almost hear the desperation in your voice cjcjc :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can almost hear the desperation in your voice cjcjc <img src='http://liberalconspiracy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cjcjc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-44279</link>
		<dc:creator>Cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 14:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, from the author of &quot;Why Guido must be ignored, vols. 1-20&quot;, Sunny presents Vol. 21: &quot;Did I mention that Guido should be ignored?&quot;
Coming soon, to a blog near you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, from the author of &#8220;Why Guido must be ignored, vols. 1-20&#8243;, Sunny presents Vol. 21: &#8220;Did I mention that Guido should be ignored?&#8221;<br />
Coming soon, to a blog near you.</p>
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		<title>By: Pick&#8217;n&#8217;mix from the blogs &#171; Frank Owen&#8217;s Paintbrush</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-44251</link>
		<dc:creator>Pick&#8217;n&#8217;mix from the blogs &#171; Frank Owen&#8217;s Paintbrush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 23:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Liberal Conspiracy, Sunny Hundal has posted a piece from Private Eye about those emails and that right-wing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Shatterface</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-44246</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatterface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 20:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;To me that&#039;s like saying that if you have a cold that the sneeze is the problem than the virus&#039;

That analogy doesn&#039;t really work since its Guido who is the snot filled sternutation through which Westminster gossip is transmitted. 

Just mop it up with a mansize Cleanex and move on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;To me that&#8217;s like saying that if you have a cold that the sneeze is the problem than the virus&#8217;</p>
<p>That analogy doesn&#8217;t really work since its Guido who is the snot filled sternutation through which Westminster gossip is transmitted. </p>
<p>Just mop it up with a mansize Cleanex and move on.</p>
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		<title>By: The Misguided Liberal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-44245</link>
		<dc:creator>The Misguided Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 19:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking through the Guido Fawkes archive, the post you&#039;re referring to doesn&#039;t seem to exist. I wonder why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking through the Guido Fawkes archive, the post you&#8217;re referring to doesn&#8217;t seem to exist. I wonder why.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-44243</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 19:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;he’s really NOT the story - which is that New Labour insiders were behaving like arse-holes.&lt;/em&gt;

I disagree. To me that&#039;s like saying that if you have a cold, then the sneeze is the problem than the actual virus. The Private Eye piece is pointing to a virus. That virus is the obsession with personality based journalism, and the willingness to publish unsubstantiated personality-based hatchet jobs than write about real issues. The lobby journalists are all guilty of it - which is why it encourages people like McBride and Draper to exploit the system and vice versa. They&#039;re leeching off each other. 

Staines is part of the same nexus - you don&#039;t think people like McBride or Draper tried to use him to push their own agendas, and that others on the right won&#039;t do the same? You think that Westminster will now somehow become a paragon of virtue now that McBride and Draper have gone? C&#039;mon shatterface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>he’s really NOT the story &#8211; which is that New Labour insiders were behaving like arse-holes.</em></p>
<p>I disagree. To me that&#8217;s like saying that if you have a cold, then the sneeze is the problem than the actual virus. The Private Eye piece is pointing to a virus. That virus is the obsession with personality based journalism, and the willingness to publish unsubstantiated personality-based hatchet jobs than write about real issues. The lobby journalists are all guilty of it &#8211; which is why it encourages people like McBride and Draper to exploit the system and vice versa. They&#8217;re leeching off each other. </p>
<p>Staines is part of the same nexus &#8211; you don&#8217;t think people like McBride or Draper tried to use him to push their own agendas, and that others on the right won&#8217;t do the same? You think that Westminster will now somehow become a paragon of virtue now that McBride and Draper have gone? C&#8217;mon shatterface.</p>
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		<title>By: Shatterface</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-44240</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatterface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 18:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brooker&#039;s programme is the best thing on TV and you can pick up more about the media from his show than three years at Uni. Harry Hill&#039;s funnier though.

Still, hasn&#039;t this Guido story run it&#039;s course by now? 

And whether he&#039;s the feerless investigative reporter he thinks he is or just a pompous nerd with too much time on his hands, he&#039;s really NOT the story -  which is that New Labour insiders were behaving like arse-holes.

Everytime you bring up Guido you just remind us what Draper and MuckBride got up to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brooker&#8217;s programme is the best thing on TV and you can pick up more about the media from his show than three years at Uni. Harry Hill&#8217;s funnier though.</p>
<p>Still, hasn&#8217;t this Guido story run it&#8217;s course by now? </p>
<p>And whether he&#8217;s the feerless investigative reporter he thinks he is or just a pompous nerd with too much time on his hands, he&#8217;s really NOT the story &#8211;  which is that New Labour insiders were behaving like arse-holes.</p>
<p>Everytime you bring up Guido you just remind us what Draper and MuckBride got up to.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-44237</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 18:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched that last night - the whole episode is bloody excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched that last night &#8211; the whole episode is bloody excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayyan</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-44235</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 18:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie Brooker&#039;s Newswipe covers this and compares the whole McBride vs Gudio saga to two giant monsters made of shit fighting it out in some kind of nightmarish Godzilla film:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00k3687/Newswipe_Episode_6/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie Brooker&#8217;s Newswipe covers this and compares the whole McBride vs Gudio saga to two giant monsters made of shit fighting it out in some kind of nightmarish Godzilla film:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00k3687/Newswipe_Episode_6/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00k3687/Newswipe_Episode_6/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Liberal Conspiracy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-77431</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 17:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;New post: Private Eye on McBride / Guido saga http://tinyurl.com/cwwnpb&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/libcon/status/1670988903&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">New post: Private Eye on McBride / Guido saga <a href="http://tinyurl.com/cwwnpb" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/cwwnpb</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/libcon/status/1670988903">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: sunny hundal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-77430</link>
		<dc:creator>sunny hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 12:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Private Eye on the McBride / Guido Fawkes saga - http://bit.ly/LImVM - love it. sunny&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/pickledpolitics/status/1672109968&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Private Eye on the McBride / Guido Fawkes saga &#8211; <a href="http://bit.ly/LImVM" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/LImVM</a> &#8211; love it. sunny</span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/pickledpolitics/status/1672109968">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Liberal Conspiracy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/05/01/private-eye-on-mcbride-guido-saga/#comment-78467</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal Conspiracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 10:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;New post: Private Eye on McBride / Guido saga http://tinyurl.com/cwwnpb&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
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