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		<title>By: Johnny</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-42397</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well
I hope all of you on here who whinge about a &quot;police state&quot; and &quot;police brutality&quot; finally get what you wish for, a police &quot;service&quot; that will not use force on anyone...You&#039;ll be  crying out when you realise what real anarchy is. Honestly I cannot believe the imbalance and stupidity on this column.And before you ask,I&#039;m not a copper.  If you have thousands of people then there will always be an element which has to be physically controlled. As for Ian Tomlinson, yes his death is a tragedy,but i find the filming of his &quot;treatment&quot; by the police oh so convenient...the camera seems to film everything when he is being pushed,but then conveniently turns away...perhaps it could be that he may have been out to provoke/fight police that day? Can the liberal anarchists here consider that as a possibility?
Just remember you lot ,the countless unarmed officers who have died tackling gunmen and knife wielding maniacs in the early hours while we sleep in our beds. Just imagine the feeling you would have if suddenly you no longer had that 999 facility to call police when you are in danger or someone is breaking into your home at 3am. And just remember that the vast majority of coppers whilst they are not perfect, and have few senior officers who support them,try to do their job as best they can for a very average salary ,and the majority of us would not even have the courage to think about doing their job. I find it sickening that as a society we are so quick to blame the police, it has become the default position. No one else carries self responsibility, and we eulogise criminals and scumbags because it is &quot;cool&quot; to do so. 
We have a well trained disciplined force who by and large are good people trying to do a shitty job. Surely no one would deny we need police,so if you think you can do better ,join up,do the training and see how hard it probably is. Stop wanting a utopian police force, you aint gonna get it. But this constant police bashing will eventually lead to a totally impotent police force that can no longer by and large protect and hold society together. 

You will have something to cry about then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well<br />
I hope all of you on here who whinge about a &#8220;police state&#8221; and &#8220;police brutality&#8221; finally get what you wish for, a police &#8220;service&#8221; that will not use force on anyone&#8230;You&#8217;ll be  crying out when you realise what real anarchy is. Honestly I cannot believe the imbalance and stupidity on this column.And before you ask,I&#8217;m not a copper.  If you have thousands of people then there will always be an element which has to be physically controlled. As for Ian Tomlinson, yes his death is a tragedy,but i find the filming of his &#8220;treatment&#8221; by the police oh so convenient&#8230;the camera seems to film everything when he is being pushed,but then conveniently turns away&#8230;perhaps it could be that he may have been out to provoke/fight police that day? Can the liberal anarchists here consider that as a possibility?<br />
Just remember you lot ,the countless unarmed officers who have died tackling gunmen and knife wielding maniacs in the early hours while we sleep in our beds. Just imagine the feeling you would have if suddenly you no longer had that 999 facility to call police when you are in danger or someone is breaking into your home at 3am. And just remember that the vast majority of coppers whilst they are not perfect, and have few senior officers who support them,try to do their job as best they can for a very average salary ,and the majority of us would not even have the courage to think about doing their job. I find it sickening that as a society we are so quick to blame the police, it has become the default position. No one else carries self responsibility, and we eulogise criminals and scumbags because it is &#8220;cool&#8221; to do so.<br />
We have a well trained disciplined force who by and large are good people trying to do a shitty job. Surely no one would deny we need police,so if you think you can do better ,join up,do the training and see how hard it probably is. Stop wanting a utopian police force, you aint gonna get it. But this constant police bashing will eventually lead to a totally impotent police force that can no longer by and large protect and hold society together. </p>
<p>You will have something to cry about then.</p>
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		<title>By: Carnival of Socialism &#171; Harpymarx</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-41070</link>
		<dc:creator>Carnival of Socialism &#171; Harpymarx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 12:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] last week, the cops continued the traditon by battering, attacking our right to protest, kettling , while smashing up the peaceful Climate Camp, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-41033</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 07:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So,

Who&#039;s going to vote me onto the IPCC?

What?

You can&#039;t?

It is a closed institution you say?

Well, hit me over the head with a baton, why don&#039;t you.

To steal a line:

QUIS CUSTODIET IPSO CUSTODES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So,</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s going to vote me onto the IPCC?</p>
<p>What?</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t?</p>
<p>It is a closed institution you say?</p>
<p>Well, hit me over the head with a baton, why don&#8217;t you.</p>
<p>To steal a line:</p>
<p>QUIS CUSTODIET IPSO CUSTODES</p>
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		<title>By: chris elmes</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-41032</link>
		<dc:creator>chris elmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 05:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IIt must be noted  that it was the intent of the police and the IPCC to close any of these issues as quickly as possable. It has since emerged that Ian Tomlinson was hit with a baton and knocked to the ground moments before he died, that a medical student who was giveing first aid was shoved away from him ,and that police refused to  speak to the ambulance dispatcher on the phone. The IPCC in turn tried to close the issue by accepting the police version of events,when mr Tomlinsons family where informed by gardian reporters as to what had actually occured the police leaison officer was absolutly livid and orderd the media to stop upseting the family and not contact them for at least 48 hours. However with video footage of the incedent in the public domain the IPCC have been forced to launch a criminal investigation and remove city of London police, metropolitian police and transport police from this case.

  The metropolitian police seem to think that their perporse is to act  as Nu-Labours stoormtroopers and who appear(in my opinion)to have become a dreadful parody of the SA/Sturmabteilung thugs whose perporse was to crush violently any dissent/protest against Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP. We ignore this kind of conduct at our peril,the police in this country have effecively come under the control of what is de facto a private buissness to wit the assosiation of chief police officers(ACPO)and if we are not careful this band of self styled illuminati will become our masters.

 &quot;Choose the lesser evil&quot; de officiis : Marcus Tullius Cicero

 QUIS CUSTODIET IPSO CUSTODES</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IIt must be noted  that it was the intent of the police and the IPCC to close any of these issues as quickly as possable. It has since emerged that Ian Tomlinson was hit with a baton and knocked to the ground moments before he died, that a medical student who was giveing first aid was shoved away from him ,and that police refused to  speak to the ambulance dispatcher on the phone. The IPCC in turn tried to close the issue by accepting the police version of events,when mr Tomlinsons family where informed by gardian reporters as to what had actually occured the police leaison officer was absolutly livid and orderd the media to stop upseting the family and not contact them for at least 48 hours. However with video footage of the incedent in the public domain the IPCC have been forced to launch a criminal investigation and remove city of London police, metropolitian police and transport police from this case.</p>
<p>  The metropolitian police seem to think that their perporse is to act  as Nu-Labours stoormtroopers and who appear(in my opinion)to have become a dreadful parody of the SA/Sturmabteilung thugs whose perporse was to crush violently any dissent/protest against Adolf Hitler and the NSDAP. We ignore this kind of conduct at our peril,the police in this country have effecively come under the control of what is de facto a private buissness to wit the assosiation of chief police officers(ACPO)and if we are not careful this band of self styled illuminati will become our masters.</p>
<p> &#8220;Choose the lesser evil&#8221; de officiis : Marcus Tullius Cicero</p>
<p> QUIS CUSTODIET IPSO CUSTODES</p>
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		<title>By: The Metropolitan Police: A Brutal, Unaccountable Militia &#171; Cosmodaddy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40403</link>
		<dc:creator>The Metropolitan Police: A Brutal, Unaccountable Militia &#171; Cosmodaddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] handidness and, in many cases, brutality of the police&#8217;s approach to the protests at the Bank of England and Climate Camp. These have helped counter some of the all too predictable smears coming from [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Adam M.</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-74117</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 03:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Police brutality in response to protests or protests in response to police brutality? http://tinyurl.com/d9yv65&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/shiningtvscreen/status/1462043030&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Police brutality in response to protests or protests in response to police brutality? <a href="http://tinyurl.com/d9yv65" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/d9yv65</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/shiningtvscreen/status/1462043030">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: S Smith</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-74118</link>
		<dc:creator>S Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;I still blame police brutality (Sunny Hundal): 
http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/justice30/status/1453083822&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">I still blame police brutality (Sunny Hundal):<br />
<a href="http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/" rel="nofollow">http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/justice30/status/1453083822">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: S Smith</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-75254</link>
		<dc:creator>S Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;I still blame police brutality (Sunny Hundal): 
http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/justice30/status/1453083822&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">I still blame police brutality (Sunny Hundal):<br />
<a href="http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/" rel="nofollow">http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/justice30/status/1453083822">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Flying Rodent</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40256</link>
		<dc:creator>Flying Rodent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 00:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Have you ever met a policeman?&lt;/em&gt;

Given my former line of work, I know about fifteen by name, maybe twice that by acquaintance - I&#039;m related to two, and count one as a friend.  Almost all of them are good people, and I can count the power-trippers I&#039;ve met on one hand - arsehole coppers who get a stiffy battering people do exist, but the days of the West Midlands Serious Crimes are long gone.

That said, put anyone in a hi-tech space marine outfit, train them in crowd control and give them authority to keep the plebs in line... Well, you don&#039;t have to be Stanley Milgram to see that&#039;s going to bring out their unfriendly side.  There&#039;s no way to keep these events peaceful, but I think the Met could&#039;ve done better than they did.

It&#039;s easy to forget, but coppers do a shitty job that I wouldn&#039;t do for twice the wage they get.  I wouldn&#039;t do crowd control for four times what they get, now I come to think of it, and you wouldn&#039;t either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever met a policeman?</em></p>
<p>Given my former line of work, I know about fifteen by name, maybe twice that by acquaintance &#8211; I&#8217;m related to two, and count one as a friend.  Almost all of them are good people, and I can count the power-trippers I&#8217;ve met on one hand &#8211; arsehole coppers who get a stiffy battering people do exist, but the days of the West Midlands Serious Crimes are long gone.</p>
<p>That said, put anyone in a hi-tech space marine outfit, train them in crowd control and give them authority to keep the plebs in line&#8230; Well, you don&#8217;t have to be Stanley Milgram to see that&#8217;s going to bring out their unfriendly side.  There&#8217;s no way to keep these events peaceful, but I think the Met could&#8217;ve done better than they did.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s easy to forget, but coppers do a shitty job that I wouldn&#8217;t do for twice the wage they get.  I wouldn&#8217;t do crowd control for four times what they get, now I come to think of it, and you wouldn&#8217;t either.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40247</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve held off until I thought I could get the last word in...

Who polices the Police? 
We the public.

Who votes for the party of government which sets the legislative agenda and controls the Police? 
We the public.

Who is to blame if we don&#039;t like it? 
We the public.

What can we do if we don&#039;t like it? 
Get involved. Vote for a different party. Scrutinise processes. Stand for election. 

Stop protesting and start proposing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve held off until I thought I could get the last word in&#8230;</p>
<p>Who polices the Police?<br />
We the public.</p>
<p>Who votes for the party of government which sets the legislative agenda and controls the Police?<br />
We the public.</p>
<p>Who is to blame if we don&#8217;t like it?<br />
We the public.</p>
<p>What can we do if we don&#8217;t like it?<br />
Get involved. Vote for a different party. Scrutinise processes. Stand for election. </p>
<p>Stop protesting and start proposing.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheesy Monkey</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40245</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheesy Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jako

Have you ever met a policeman? Wednesday proves yet again that the police are a malign force in this country an asking for them nicely to change ain&#039;t gonna work. Fuck &#039;em - they&#039;re a tumor that needs cutting out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jako</p>
<p>Have you ever met a policeman? Wednesday proves yet again that the police are a malign force in this country an asking for them nicely to change ain&#8217;t gonna work. Fuck &#8216;em &#8211; they&#8217;re a tumor that needs cutting out.</p>
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		<title>By: Claude</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40219</link>
		<dc:creator>Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reckon chavscum is having us on and deep down is a true leftist just having a laugh.
His comment really had me chuckling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reckon chavscum is having us on and deep down is a true leftist just having a laugh.<br />
His comment really had me chuckling.</p>
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		<title>By: Jako</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40211</link>
		<dc:creator>Jako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Please kill yourselves. You are all worthless. Kill yourselves. You are all pointless. Kill yourselves. The past thirty years have seen civil liberties eroded but your powers increased. Kill yourselves. Yet you all think you don’t have enough power and that the state’s ’soft’. Kill yourselves. No-one will miss you. Kill yourselves, and kill yourselves now.&quot;

As even people &#039;on your side&#039; of the argument must appreciate, you are a moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Please kill yourselves. You are all worthless. Kill yourselves. You are all pointless. Kill yourselves. The past thirty years have seen civil liberties eroded but your powers increased. Kill yourselves. Yet you all think you don’t have enough power and that the state’s ’soft’. Kill yourselves. No-one will miss you. Kill yourselves, and kill yourselves now.&#8221;</p>
<p>As even people &#8216;on your side&#8217; of the argument must appreciate, you are a moron.</p>
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		<title>By: neuza</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40209</link>
		<dc:creator>neuza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 14:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chavscum: Fuck off.</description>
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		<title>By: asquith</title>
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		<dc:creator>asquith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chav, might I ask what you&#039;re actually doing on this site? I&#039;ve yet to see any evidence of you trying to engage with people &amp; discuss the issues at hand. You&#039;ve only ever sneered at &amp; berated those you deem unacceptable. It&#039;s not as if you&#039;re winning people over, is it?

Freedom of speech &amp; so on, but I do wonder why you&#039;re using your own time in such a way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chav, might I ask what you&#8217;re actually doing on this site? I&#8217;ve yet to see any evidence of you trying to engage with people &amp; discuss the issues at hand. You&#8217;ve only ever sneered at &amp; berated those you deem unacceptable. It&#8217;s not as if you&#8217;re winning people over, is it?</p>
<p>Freedom of speech &amp; so on, but I do wonder why you&#8217;re using your own time in such a way.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheesy Monkey</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40206</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheesy Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, chavscum: been at the Twat-O-Tron &lt;i&gt;again&lt;/i&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, chavscum: been at the Twat-O-Tron <i>again</i>?</p>
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		<title>By: chavscum</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40205</link>
		<dc:creator>chavscum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listening to the whingers. You lefties make me laugh. You’re such a bunch of selfish, self-righteous cretins, you come out once a year from your middle-class safety nets for a day out at a demo and think you are the first people to encounter police crowd control tactics. You seem to forget that the British Police are renowned masters at crowd control, owing to experience policing football fans for 30/40 yrs. 

Kettling or whatever you want to call it has been used as a tactic to control football fans looking for trouble since the early 90s at least. Fans would mob up and roam the streets looking for the opposing mob or firm. The Police will follow them in large numbers and gradually hassle them until they corner and surround them. Sometimes they would force you into a pub and hold you hostage for hours. They moved from this after some fans would set fire to the pub, forcing the Police to let them out. More likely, they would pin you in a street for as long as they want. Then they will let you out one by one after photographing and taking details from each ‘offender’, to kept on the Football Intelligence Unit database.
 
Often innocent fans or passers by would end up penned in with the hardcore troublemakers. When the Belgian Police did this at Euro 2000, they even deported some American tourists to England. Many fans arrested were beaten and had their €s stolen.

So where was the hysterical reaction from the Left and their human rights for all? Don’t white working-class fellas have human rights? Its probably because football fans realise there is a small minority looking for aggro and a bigger minority still, that are gawpers or like to hang around when there is potential, just like these anti-capitalist demos. Reasonable people understand the need for such tactics to prevent serious injury or disorder. It works.

It a shame the poor fella who died was just an ordinary lower-class newsagent worker and not some trustafarian student. It should make these socialist indoctrinated pricks think again that their pathetic protests are mostly detrimental to ordinary working people, not some media led stereotype bankers. I doubt it.

You need to think about what you were doing there and what you were attempting to achieve. Don’t give me that shit about your right to protest. You were there to disrupt a working day in the City, as an attention seeking irrelevance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listening to the whingers. You lefties make me laugh. You’re such a bunch of selfish, self-righteous cretins, you come out once a year from your middle-class safety nets for a day out at a demo and think you are the first people to encounter police crowd control tactics. You seem to forget that the British Police are renowned masters at crowd control, owing to experience policing football fans for 30/40 yrs. </p>
<p>Kettling or whatever you want to call it has been used as a tactic to control football fans looking for trouble since the early 90s at least. Fans would mob up and roam the streets looking for the opposing mob or firm. The Police will follow them in large numbers and gradually hassle them until they corner and surround them. Sometimes they would force you into a pub and hold you hostage for hours. They moved from this after some fans would set fire to the pub, forcing the Police to let them out. More likely, they would pin you in a street for as long as they want. Then they will let you out one by one after photographing and taking details from each ‘offender’, to kept on the Football Intelligence Unit database.</p>
<p>Often innocent fans or passers by would end up penned in with the hardcore troublemakers. When the Belgian Police did this at Euro 2000, they even deported some American tourists to England. Many fans arrested were beaten and had their €s stolen.</p>
<p>So where was the hysterical reaction from the Left and their human rights for all? Don’t white working-class fellas have human rights? Its probably because football fans realise there is a small minority looking for aggro and a bigger minority still, that are gawpers or like to hang around when there is potential, just like these anti-capitalist demos. Reasonable people understand the need for such tactics to prevent serious injury or disorder. It works.</p>
<p>It a shame the poor fella who died was just an ordinary lower-class newsagent worker and not some trustafarian student. It should make these socialist indoctrinated pricks think again that their pathetic protests are mostly detrimental to ordinary working people, not some media led stereotype bankers. I doubt it.</p>
<p>You need to think about what you were doing there and what you were attempting to achieve. Don’t give me that shit about your right to protest. You were there to disrupt a working day in the City, as an attention seeking irrelevance.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheesy Monkey</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40204</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheesy Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But... it &lt;i&gt;was&lt;/i&gt; a polite request...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But&#8230; it <i>was</i> a polite request&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Common Endeavour</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40199</link>
		<dc:creator>Common Endeavour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 13:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the coming of the G20, we had a glorious carnival of protestors, a bit of controversy and a few sad tossers who need to get with the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the coming of the G20, we had a glorious carnival of protestors, a bit of controversy and a few sad tossers who need to get with the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Q. Publican</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40194</link>
		<dc:creator>John Q. Publican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheesy Monkey @ several, but particularly @105:

Please don&#039;t do that here. You make me, Alix and everyone else sane on here look like raving loonies because you agree with us about some things.

Most of the beat coppers I&#039;ve dealt with are professional, sane people. You think the squeeze tactics are designed only to raise temperatures among protesters?

Thatcher&#039;s constables, the men who were beating on pregnant women at the Battle of the Beanfield and on poll-tax protesters in Trafalgar Square, are now running the Met. They know how to turn a peaceful protest into a riot; prime your cops, then push the two sides up against each other and don&#039;t let &lt;em&gt;anyone&lt;/em&gt; leave. Now you just have to wait; the partisan atmosphere will infect the front-line people on both sides, the strain on the bladder will result in temper tantrums on both sides, and eventually violence will out.

So calling for the deaths of coppers just puts you among the lunatic fringe, and LibCon is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; the lunatic fringe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheesy Monkey @ several, but particularly @105:</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t do that here. You make me, Alix and everyone else sane on here look like raving loonies because you agree with us about some things.</p>
<p>Most of the beat coppers I&#8217;ve dealt with are professional, sane people. You think the squeeze tactics are designed only to raise temperatures among protesters?</p>
<p>Thatcher&#8217;s constables, the men who were beating on pregnant women at the Battle of the Beanfield and on poll-tax protesters in Trafalgar Square, are now running the Met. They know how to turn a peaceful protest into a riot; prime your cops, then push the two sides up against each other and don&#8217;t let <em>anyone</em> leave. Now you just have to wait; the partisan atmosphere will infect the front-line people on both sides, the strain on the bladder will result in temper tantrums on both sides, and eventually violence will out.</p>
<p>So calling for the deaths of coppers just puts you among the lunatic fringe, and LibCon is <em>not</em> the lunatic fringe.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheesy Monkey</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40189</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheesy Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 12:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@douglas clark

&lt;blockquote&gt;I would never have thought, correct me if I am wrong, that a cry for mass suicide was likely to be effective?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Well, if you don&#039;t ask...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@douglas clark</p>
<blockquote><p>I would never have thought, correct me if I am wrong, that a cry for mass suicide was likely to be effective?</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, if you don&#8217;t ask&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ukliberty</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40179</link>
		<dc:creator>ukliberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It might help if the violent protestors were kept away or restrained by the peaceful protestors.&lt;/blockquote&gt;It might help if the violent police were kept away or restrained by the peaceful police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It might help if the violent protestors were kept away or restrained by the peaceful protestors.</p></blockquote>
<p>It might help if the violent police were kept away or restrained by the peaceful police.</p>
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		<title>By: Ivor Cornish</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40171</link>
		<dc:creator>Ivor Cornish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One clip I saw on the BBC news was of a protester facing a policeman who had a shield.  Not too sure what, if anything, the protester said, but the response by the policeman was to smack him in the face with the shield.
They are moving into the vacuum created by a weak and spineless government.
If not reined in they will become a force no party in government can control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One clip I saw on the BBC news was of a protester facing a policeman who had a shield.  Not too sure what, if anything, the protester said, but the response by the policeman was to smack him in the face with the shield.<br />
They are moving into the vacuum created by a weak and spineless government.<br />
If not reined in they will become a force no party in government can control.</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40167</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheesy Monkey @ 105,

That is fairly irritating, so it is.

Says the middle of the road, me.

I would never have thought, correct me if I am wrong, that a cry for mass suicide was likely to be effective?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheesy Monkey @ 105,</p>
<p>That is fairly irritating, so it is.</p>
<p>Says the middle of the road, me.</p>
<p>I would never have thought, correct me if I am wrong, that a cry for mass suicide was likely to be effective?</p>
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		<title>By: Cheesy Monkey</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/04/02/i-still-blame-police-brutality/#comment-40165</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheesy Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the policemen&#039;s blogs, as those bastards are busy back-slapping themselves in an orgy of poorly-spelled glee. I won&#039;t link, &#039;cos I&#039;d feel cheap and dirty.

To any coppers reading this: sit down, pour yourself a drink and look closely at the forthcoming paragraph. Wipe clean your eyes and look clearly, contemplate and comprehend.

&lt;b&gt;Please kill yourselves. You are all worthless. Kill yourselves. You are all pointless. Kill yourselves. The past thirty years have seen civil liberties eroded but your powers increased. Kill yourselves.  Yet you all think you don&#039;t have enough power and that the state&#039;s &#039;soft&#039;. Kill yourselves. No-one will miss you. Kill yourselves, and kill yourselves now.&lt;/b&gt;

I&#039;m currently taking bookings for children&#039;s parties...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the policemen&#8217;s blogs, as those bastards are busy back-slapping themselves in an orgy of poorly-spelled glee. I won&#8217;t link, &#8216;cos I&#8217;d feel cheap and dirty.</p>
<p>To any coppers reading this: sit down, pour yourself a drink and look closely at the forthcoming paragraph. Wipe clean your eyes and look clearly, contemplate and comprehend.</p>
<p><b>Please kill yourselves. You are all worthless. Kill yourselves. You are all pointless. Kill yourselves. The past thirty years have seen civil liberties eroded but your powers increased. Kill yourselves.  Yet you all think you don&#8217;t have enough power and that the state&#8217;s &#8217;soft&#8217;. Kill yourselves. No-one will miss you. Kill yourselves, and kill yourselves now.</b></p>
<p>I&#8217;m currently taking bookings for children&#8217;s parties&#8230;</p>
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