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	<title>Comments on: We&#8217;re not barred by Barclays are we?</title>
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		<title>By: Spike</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-39570</link>
		<dc:creator>Spike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 07:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Where I would be careful is with the whole issue of legal privilege. Where tax advice is provided by lawyers, there’s an ongoing debate about whether this advice is protected by legal privilege (personally, I find it rather a ridiculous position to take in most cases), but it is a real risk.&quot;

Legal privilege protects confidential advice given by a lawyer from being used as evidence in court against the recipient.  So what is the risk to individuals who have no intention of using it in court?  

The only risks I can identify are: (i) the person disclosing it either being sued (as the Guardian was) or (ii) being fined for contempt of court for breach of the court order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Where I would be careful is with the whole issue of legal privilege. Where tax advice is provided by lawyers, there’s an ongoing debate about whether this advice is protected by legal privilege (personally, I find it rather a ridiculous position to take in most cases), but it is a real risk.&#8221;</p>
<p>Legal privilege protects confidential advice given by a lawyer from being used as evidence in court against the recipient.  So what is the risk to individuals who have no intention of using it in court?  </p>
<p>The only risks I can identify are: (i) the person disclosing it either being sued (as the Guardian was) or (ii) being fined for contempt of court for breach of the court order.</p>
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		<title>By: Gareth Winchester</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-74891</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Winchester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 23:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@jemimakiss This is a good a place as any to start  http://is.gd/oNja Also #barclaysmemos&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/dnotice/status/&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@jemimakiss This is a good a place as any to start  <a href="http://is.gd/oNja" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/oNja</a> Also #barclaysmemos</span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/dnotice/status/">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Allan Edwards</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-74890</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Edwards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;this sort of thing? http://tinyurl.com/cbgqdc&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/allanedwards/status/1384750942&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">this sort of thing? <a href="http://tinyurl.com/cbgqdc" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/cbgqdc</a></span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/allanedwards/status/1384750942">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Gareth Winchester</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-76326</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth Winchester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;@jemimakiss This is a good a place as any to start  http://is.gd/oNja Also #barclaysmemos&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;topsy_trackback_links&quot;&gt;[&lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/dnotice/status/&quot;&gt;Original tweet&lt;/a&gt;]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">@jemimakiss This is a good a place as any to start  <a href="http://is.gd/oNja" rel="nofollow">http://is.gd/oNja</a> Also #barclaysmemos</span></p>
<div class="topsy_trackback_links">[<a href="http://twitter.com/dnotice/status/">Original tweet</a>]</div>
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		<title>By: Cabalamat</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38798</link>
		<dc:creator>Cabalamat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately Wikileaks is overloaded -- if anyone has the document can they email them to me (cabalamat@googlemail.com) so I can host them on my server.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately Wikileaks is overloaded &#8212; if anyone has the document can they email them to me (cabalamat@googlemail.com) so I can host them on my server.</p>
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		<title>By: Cabalamat</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38797</link>
		<dc:creator>Cabalamat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Link also up on &lt;a href=&quot;http://cabalamat.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/guardianbarclays-documents-up-on-wikileaks/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amused Cynicism&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Link also up on <a href="http://cabalamat.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/guardianbarclays-documents-up-on-wikileaks/" rel="nofollow">Amused Cynicism</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Guardian/Barclays documents up on Wikileaks &#171; Amused Cynicism</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38796</link>
		<dc:creator>Guardian/Barclays documents up on Wikileaks &#171; Amused Cynicism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] link to Wikileaks is being published by Liberal Conspiracy, and these other blogs:Andrew Grant-Adamson, newsjiffy, septicisle, John Band, Richard Murphy / Tax [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] link to Wikileaks is being published by Liberal Conspiracy, and these other blogs:Andrew Grant-Adamson, newsjiffy, septicisle, John Band, Richard Murphy / Tax [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Falco</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38772</link>
		<dc:creator>Falco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 03:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Have Barclays actually done anything illegal?&quot;

Not so far as we can tell in relation to this issue.

Please, for the love of f*ck,  tell me you are aware of the blatant gall of the Grauniad criticising people for tax avoidance when they also have similarly legal but highly effective tax strategies, (and are laying people off).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Have Barclays actually done anything illegal?&#8221;</p>
<p>Not so far as we can tell in relation to this issue.</p>
<p>Please, for the love of f*ck,  tell me you are aware of the blatant gall of the Grauniad criticising people for tax avoidance when they also have similarly legal but highly effective tax strategies, (and are laying people off).</p>
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		<title>By: Jump You Fuckers- Americans Fight back- while we&#8230;&#8230;.. &#171; Centurean2&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38749</link>
		<dc:creator>Jump You Fuckers- Americans Fight back- while we&#8230;&#8230;.. &#171; Centurean2&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sunny Hundal is trying to get loads of blogs to link to the full papers - after all, we haven’t had injunctions taken out to prevent us from doing so. The documents are here.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sunny Hundal is trying to get loads of blogs to link to the full papers &#8211; after all, we haven’t had injunctions taken out to prevent us from doing so. The documents are here.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38718</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 02:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brown has increased the complexity of tax legislation which may have made evasion easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brown has increased the complexity of tax legislation which may have made evasion easier.</p>
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		<title>By: Claude</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38708</link>
		<dc:creator>Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hagley Road to Ladywood joins you guys.
http://mymarilyn.blogspot.com/2009/03/having-barclays.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hagley Road to Ladywood joins you guys.<br />
<a href="http://mymarilyn.blogspot.com/2009/03/having-barclays.html" rel="nofollow">http://mymarilyn.blogspot.com/2009/03/having-barclays.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: John H</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38703</link>
		<dc:creator>John H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What really shocks me is the complexity of the proposals and the poor quality of the briefing memos.  I would really like to know how long the Barclays Approvals committee spent considering this or if it was a rubber stamp.  How well resourced is the committee?  Does it obtain independent advice?

This is important as it drives to banks risk management.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What really shocks me is the complexity of the proposals and the poor quality of the briefing memos.  I would really like to know how long the Barclays Approvals committee spent considering this or if it was a rubber stamp.  How well resourced is the committee?  Does it obtain independent advice?</p>
<p>This is important as it drives to banks risk management.</p>
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		<title>By: What A Pile of Bankers! &#171; ModernityBlog</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38700</link>
		<dc:creator>What A Pile of Bankers! &#171; ModernityBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sunny breaks the leak. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: modernityblog</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38699</link>
		<dc:creator>modernityblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Add me too :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Add me too <img src='http://liberalconspiracy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Adams</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38694</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;One hopes that if Barclays are forced either by legal or moral pressure to pay more tax that they won’t start laying people off to pay for it.&lt;/i&gt;

The amount Barclays has saved in tax is estimated at £1bn. Their profit for 2008 was £4.3bn. I don&#039;t think that any claim that they are forced to lay off staff will get much sympathy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>One hopes that if Barclays are forced either by legal or moral pressure to pay more tax that they won’t start laying people off to pay for it.</i></p>
<p>The amount Barclays has saved in tax is estimated at £1bn. Their profit for 2008 was £4.3bn. I don&#8217;t think that any claim that they are forced to lay off staff will get much sympathy.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38684</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://errorgorilla.tumblr.com/post/88228627/barclays-lawyers-might-have-succeeded-in-gagging</description>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38682</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One hopes that if Barclays are forced either by legal or moral pressure to pay more tax that they won&#039;t start laying people off to pay for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One hopes that if Barclays are forced either by legal or moral pressure to pay more tax that they won&#8217;t start laying people off to pay for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38681</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have Barclays actually done anything illegal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have Barclays actually done anything illegal?</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38679</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>added, thanks! keep em&#039; coming!

We can&#039;t let the real tax scroungers get away with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>added, thanks! keep em&#8217; coming!</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t let the real tax scroungers get away with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Adams</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38670</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Done

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/?p=69&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/?p=69&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Done</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/?p=69" rel="nofollow">http://www.mutantblog.co.uk/?p=69</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Barclays links &#171; Max Dunbar</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38668</link>
		<dc:creator>The Barclays links &#171; Max Dunbar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sunny Hundal is trying to get loads of blogs to link to the full papers - after all, we haven&#8217;t had injunctions taken out to prevent us from doing so. The documents are here.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sunny Hundal is trying to get loads of blogs to link to the full papers &#8211; after all, we haven&#8217;t had injunctions taken out to prevent us from doing so. The documents are here.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Barclays links &#171; Shiraz Socialist</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38667</link>
		<dc:creator>The Barclays links &#171; Shiraz Socialist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sunny Hundal is trying to get loads of blogs to link to the full papers - after all, we haven&#8217;t had injunctions taken out to prevent us from doing so. The documents are here.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sunny Hundal is trying to get loads of blogs to link to the full papers &#8211; after all, we haven&#8217;t had injunctions taken out to prevent us from doing so. The documents are here.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fellow Traveller</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38666</link>
		<dc:creator>Fellow Traveller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like the al-jazeera memo all over again. 

But no one recalls that affair even though two men went to prison because of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the al-jazeera memo all over again. </p>
<p>But no one recalls that affair even though two men went to prison because of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Economic Roundup, Friday 20th March 2009 - Common Endeavour</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38660</link>
		<dc:creator>Economic Roundup, Friday 20th March 2009 - Common Endeavour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] First up let&#039;s start with people at Barclays, your corresondent reckons that they will rue the day they chose the Sultan&#039;s shekel over the Queen&#039;s shilling. For now they seem desperate to raise cash and have got in almighty scrap with the Guardian over tax avoidance. Sunny has more.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] First up let&#8217;s start with people at Barclays, your corresondent reckons that they will rue the day they chose the Sultan&#8217;s shekel over the Queen&#8217;s shilling. For now they seem desperate to raise cash and have got in almighty scrap with the Guardian over tax avoidance. Sunny has more.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/03/20/were-not-barred-by-barclays-are-we/#comment-38657</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=3384#comment-38657</guid>
		<description>Aaron&#039;s done a post: http://tygerland.net/2009/03/20/barclays-memos-online/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron&#8217;s done a post: <a href="http://tygerland.net/2009/03/20/barclays-memos-online/" rel="nofollow">http://tygerland.net/2009/03/20/barclays-memos-online/</a></p>
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