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		<title>By: ukliberty</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/21/help-keep-parliament-transparent/#comment-31858</link>
		<dc:creator>ukliberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind reimbursing my MP for expenses &quot;they incur in doing their job&quot;.  What I object to is expenses incurred as a result of wanting a new 42&quot; flat screen TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind reimbursing my MP for expenses &#8220;they incur in doing their job&#8221;.  What I object to is expenses incurred as a result of wanting a new 42&#8243; flat screen TV.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Griffin</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/21/help-keep-parliament-transparent/#comment-31854</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, interesting. He ends the letter with &quot;Like it or not, democracy costs&quot; yet tries to use the &quot;cost&quot; of keeping receipts as a reason to not allow the expenses to be accessed through FOI! Contradiction in the same letter, classic.

He also seems to skip over the gardening costs, new kitchens and excessive taxi use to simply argue that the &quot;poor&quot; MPs need the expenses otherwise they wouldn&#039;t be able to survive on their £60k salary&quot;. It&#039;s almost the same as a rich person trying to argue that no-one should be taxed because otherwise the poor will have less disposable income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, interesting. He ends the letter with &#8220;Like it or not, democracy costs&#8221; yet tries to use the &#8220;cost&#8221; of keeping receipts as a reason to not allow the expenses to be accessed through FOI! Contradiction in the same letter, classic.</p>
<p>He also seems to skip over the gardening costs, new kitchens and excessive taxi use to simply argue that the &#8220;poor&#8221; MPs need the expenses otherwise they wouldn&#8217;t be able to survive on their £60k salary&#8221;. It&#8217;s almost the same as a rich person trying to argue that no-one should be taxed because otherwise the poor will have less disposable income.</p>
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		<title>By: Alisdair Cameron</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/21/help-keep-parliament-transparent/#comment-31842</link>
		<dc:creator>Alisdair Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here goes with a link to the letter...Sunny,please remove it if not appropriate.
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/AlisdairSCameron/MPExpenses?authkey=rPLX7sU8SfM#5294137291299940882</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here goes with a link to the letter&#8230;Sunny,please remove it if not appropriate.<br />
<a href="http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/AlisdairSCameron/MPExpenses?authkey=rPLX7sU8SfM#5294137291299940882" rel="nofollow">http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/AlisdairSCameron/MPExpenses?authkey=rPLX7sU8SfM#5294137291299940882</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alisdair Cameron</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/21/help-keep-parliament-transparent/#comment-31815</link>
		<dc:creator>Alisdair Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advice wanted. Having sent a missive to my local MPs (before the victory, U-turn) I&#039;ve had a reply back from one of them (very New Labour) which to my interpretation (and those of others to whom I&#039;ve shown it) is downright shirty in tone, indignant at the Unlock democracy website and very disingenuous.
Can I put the text of it up here for comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advice wanted. Having sent a missive to my local MPs (before the victory, U-turn) I&#8217;ve had a reply back from one of them (very New Labour) which to my interpretation (and those of others to whom I&#8217;ve shown it) is downright shirty in tone, indignant at the Unlock democracy website and very disingenuous.<br />
Can I put the text of it up here for comment?</p>
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		<title>By: ukliberty</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/21/help-keep-parliament-transparent/#comment-31718</link>
		<dc:creator>ukliberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nothing to hide, nothing to fear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nothing to hide, nothing to fear!</p>
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		<title>By: Will Rhodes</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/21/help-keep-parliament-transparent/#comment-31714</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Rhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7842402.stm

Labour says they had a deal with the Conservatives - and they deny it.

A small, small victory but a victory non the less: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Earlier, Mr Brown blamed the Conservatives for what he said was a breakdown of a previous consensus over the way forward.

&quot;We thought we had agreement on the FOI Act as part of this wider package,&quot; he told MPs. &quot;Recently that support that we believed we had from the main opposition party was withdrawn. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Makes ya think, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7842402.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7842402.stm</a></p>
<p>Labour says they had a deal with the Conservatives &#8211; and they deny it.</p>
<p>A small, small victory but a victory non the less: </p>
<blockquote><p>Earlier, Mr Brown blamed the Conservatives for what he said was a breakdown of a previous consensus over the way forward.</p>
<p>&#8220;We thought we had agreement on the FOI Act as part of this wider package,&#8221; he told MPs. &#8220;Recently that support that we believed we had from the main opposition party was withdrawn. </p></blockquote>
<p>Makes ya think, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Knight</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/21/help-keep-parliament-transparent/#comment-31709</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been building up for a while - the major publicity only came over the last couple of days.  Even so, I&#039;d agree that it&#039;s pretty remarkable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been building up for a while &#8211; the major publicity only came over the last couple of days.  Even so, I&#8217;d agree that it&#8217;s pretty remarkable.</p>
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		<title>By: Alisdair Cameron</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/21/help-keep-parliament-transparent/#comment-31701</link>
		<dc:creator>Alisdair Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>F*ck me, that was a quick win!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jan/21/mps-expenses</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>F*ck me, that was a quick win!<br />
<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jan/21/mps-expenses" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jan/21/mps-expenses</a></p>
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		<title>By: ukliberty</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/21/help-keep-parliament-transparent/#comment-31700</link>
		<dc:creator>ukliberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve made my brain hurt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve made my brain hurt!</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Griffin</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/21/help-keep-parliament-transparent/#comment-31698</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing you can give her is semantics. In terms of what is &lt;em&gt;published&lt;/em&gt; by parliament she isn&#039;t lying, weasel words, a Labour Government specialty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing you can give her is semantics. In terms of what is <em>published</em> by parliament she isn&#8217;t lying, weasel words, a Labour Government specialty.</p>
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		<title>By: ukliberty</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/21/help-keep-parliament-transparent/#comment-31694</link>
		<dc:creator>ukliberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to disagree with you Lee, but it isn&#039;t so much &#039;crazy&#039; as an outright lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to disagree with you Lee, but it isn&#8217;t so much &#8216;crazy&#8217; as an outright lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Griffin</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/21/help-keep-parliament-transparent/#comment-31692</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;In view of the lack of cross-party agreement, I can confirm that we will not proceed with the motion on FoI in the debate tomorrow. I tabled the motion relating to FoI because it would provide a legal underpinning for a package of changes which would achieve greater transparency in the publication of what MPs spend.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bat. Shit. Crazy. What greater transparency can there be than the current system of FOI? Anything else is LESS transparency, my god...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;In view of the lack of cross-party agreement, I can confirm that we will not proceed with the motion on FoI in the debate tomorrow. I tabled the motion relating to FoI because it would provide a legal underpinning for a package of changes which would achieve greater transparency in the publication of what MPs spend.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Bat. Shit. Crazy. What greater transparency can there be than the current system of FOI? Anything else is LESS transparency, my god&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Knight</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/21/help-keep-parliament-transparent/#comment-31670</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, having seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jan/21/mps-expenses&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; I have to say that this campaign really &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; an example of how to do online campaigning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, having seen <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/jan/21/mps-expenses" rel="nofollow">this</a> I have to say that this campaign really <em>is</em> an example of how to do online campaigning.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Knight</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/21/help-keep-parliament-transparent/#comment-31663</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should serve as a good example for anyone wondering &#039;how can we do online campaigning in the UK&#039;?

It does, of course, help to have a particulary egregious proposal to campaign against, kindly supplied by the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This should serve as a good example for anyone wondering &#8216;how can we do online campaigning in the UK&#8217;?</p>
<p>It does, of course, help to have a particulary egregious proposal to campaign against, kindly supplied by the government.</p>
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