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		<title>By: Unholy Urine? &#171; Lucas Weatherby</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-46315</link>
		<dc:creator>Unholy Urine? &#171; Lucas Weatherby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You can read Laurie&#8217;s blog here. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Woobegone</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30576</link>
		<dc:creator>Woobegone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 09:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that&#039;s Kate shown. But the Pope &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; still just a guy in a silly hat. And just to show I&#039;m not parochial, the Dalai Lama is basically a guy in a silly nappy. Although I&#039;d rather have the Dalai Lama over for dinner (easier to cook for, for one thing)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s Kate shown. But the Pope <i>is</i> still just a guy in a silly hat. And just to show I&#8217;m not parochial, the Dalai Lama is basically a guy in a silly nappy. Although I&#8217;d rather have the Dalai Lama over for dinner (easier to cook for, for one thing)</p>
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		<title>By: Red Maria</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30564</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate Belgrave:

&lt;i&gt; Um - piss off, as it were. &lt;/i&gt;

Er - &lt;b&gt; no &lt;/b&gt;, so to speak.

You are perfectly free, madam, to say that any religion is an acceptable target for mockery, as I am equally free to point out that the kind of mockery meted out to some of them is indicative of certain ignorant parochial prejudices and free furthermore, to observe that daring young iconoclasts are apt to pull their punches when it comes to some religions while making others their whipping boy.

Hence your fatuous comments about &quot;Popey&quot; making a &quot;sexist arse of himself&quot;, simply because prominent Catholic scientists, not, nota bene, His Holiness himself, pointed out the deleterious effects of the contraceptive pill on the environment.

And hence your vulgar choice of words about someone you clearly konw very little about. You may imagine that referring to the Pope as a twat is mockery, I&#039;d just call it childish.

&lt;i&gt; I mean - you chose him, not us. &lt;/i&gt;

Perhaps that&#039;s one of your feeble attempts at mockery. In point of fact we believe that the Holy Spirit chooses Peter&#039;s successor; we do not flatter ourselves that we have any role in the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate Belgrave:</p>
<p><i> Um &#8211; piss off, as it were. </i></p>
<p>Er &#8211; <b> no </b>, so to speak.</p>
<p>You are perfectly free, madam, to say that any religion is an acceptable target for mockery, as I am equally free to point out that the kind of mockery meted out to some of them is indicative of certain ignorant parochial prejudices and free furthermore, to observe that daring young iconoclasts are apt to pull their punches when it comes to some religions while making others their whipping boy.</p>
<p>Hence your fatuous comments about &#8220;Popey&#8221; making a &#8220;sexist arse of himself&#8221;, simply because prominent Catholic scientists, not, nota bene, His Holiness himself, pointed out the deleterious effects of the contraceptive pill on the environment.</p>
<p>And hence your vulgar choice of words about someone you clearly konw very little about. You may imagine that referring to the Pope as a twat is mockery, I&#8217;d just call it childish.</p>
<p><i> I mean &#8211; you chose him, not us. </i></p>
<p>Perhaps that&#8217;s one of your feeble attempts at mockery. In point of fact we believe that the Holy Spirit chooses Peter&#8217;s successor; we do not flatter ourselves that we have any role in the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Neuroskeptic</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30363</link>
		<dc:creator>Neuroskeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amrit: Having four names is quite common in Spainish-speaking countries. I&#039;m sure the Spanish think our two-name system is quaint and odd as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amrit: Having four names is quite common in Spainish-speaking countries. I&#8217;m sure the Spanish think our two-name system is quaint and odd as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Student</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30356</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazy Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lovely piece.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lovely piece.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas Weatherby</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30350</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas Weatherby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laurie, 

Though I feel you make many valid points on the matter, I would argue that you are missing some crucial points and most importantly I would like to question whether you have actually read the Vatican statement or taken your source as 100% authentic.

You can read more at my website - direct link to the blog I have written on this is here:

http://lucasweatherby.blogspot.com/2009/01/unholy-urine.html

I would like to draw your attention to this and I would greatly appreciate a reply. 

I do not believe or agree with your view that the Vatican is being sexist. One could say that your reference to the Hitler Youth is irrelevant to your line of argument. I do however, feel that the views on contraceptives in general are important to consider and one that we should bring into discussion and debate so that religion and state laws can reconcile. 

Read my blog for more, I address other issues as well. Very much enjoyed reading this - I will definitely come back for more...

Lucas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laurie, </p>
<p>Though I feel you make many valid points on the matter, I would argue that you are missing some crucial points and most importantly I would like to question whether you have actually read the Vatican statement or taken your source as 100% authentic.</p>
<p>You can read more at my website &#8211; direct link to the blog I have written on this is here:</p>
<p><a href="http://lucasweatherby.blogspot.com/2009/01/unholy-urine.html" rel="nofollow">http://lucasweatherby.blogspot.com/2009/01/unholy-urine.html</a></p>
<p>I would like to draw your attention to this and I would greatly appreciate a reply. </p>
<p>I do not believe or agree with your view that the Vatican is being sexist. One could say that your reference to the Hitler Youth is irrelevant to your line of argument. I do however, feel that the views on contraceptives in general are important to consider and one that we should bring into discussion and debate so that religion and state laws can reconcile. </p>
<p>Read my blog for more, I address other issues as well. Very much enjoyed reading this &#8211; I will definitely come back for more&#8230;</p>
<p>Lucas</p>
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		<title>By: Spiritof1976</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30346</link>
		<dc:creator>Spiritof1976</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Out come all the anti-Catholic bigots, who, undoubtedly imagine themselves paragons of liberal prejudice-free values. &lt;/i&gt;

Actually, Red Maria, I &lt;b&gt;am&lt;/b&gt; a Catholic. By upbringing, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Out come all the anti-Catholic bigots, who, undoubtedly imagine themselves paragons of liberal prejudice-free values. </i></p>
<p>Actually, Red Maria, I <b>am</b> a Catholic. By upbringing, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Amrit</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30304</link>
		<dc:creator>Amrit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LMAO. 

Both at the picture and at the story.

Although really, Laurie, there was almost no need to write it out. You could&#039;ve stopped at:

&#039;Vatican releases official statement saying that women’s wee is unholy.
The president of the International Federation of Catholic Medical Associations, Pedro Jose Maria Simon Castellvi, said the pill “has for some years had devastating effects on the environment by releasing tonnes of hormones into nature” through female urine.

“We have sufficient evidence to state that a non-negligible cause of male infertility in the West is the environmental pollution caused by the pill,” he said, without elaborating further.&#039;


I mean, I for one would find a man in a dress with four different names  (Jose? Maria? Simon? Pedro?) inherently untrustworthy. As, I suspect, would most of the people on this here blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LMAO. </p>
<p>Both at the picture and at the story.</p>
<p>Although really, Laurie, there was almost no need to write it out. You could&#8217;ve stopped at:</p>
<p>&#8216;Vatican releases official statement saying that women’s wee is unholy.<br />
The president of the International Federation of Catholic Medical Associations, Pedro Jose Maria Simon Castellvi, said the pill “has for some years had devastating effects on the environment by releasing tonnes of hormones into nature” through female urine.</p>
<p>“We have sufficient evidence to state that a non-negligible cause of male infertility in the West is the environmental pollution caused by the pill,” he said, without elaborating further.&#8217;</p>
<p>I mean, I for one would find a man in a dress with four different names  (Jose? Maria? Simon? Pedro?) inherently untrustworthy. As, I suspect, would most of the people on this here blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Belgrave</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30288</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate Belgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Maria,

Um - piss off, as it were. 

Islam is indeed an acceptable target for mockery, as are all religions. I will personally commit to blogging on the topic myself if one or other ayatollah around the place comes out against girl piddle. It just so happens that Popey is the one making a sexist arse of himself today. Why do you Catholics insist on punishing the rest of the world for the fact that your leader is a twat? I mean - you chose him, not us.

Etc.

On other topics - was interested to hear nappywearing is making men infertile. Freaky. How many of you wear nappies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Maria,</p>
<p>Um &#8211; piss off, as it were. </p>
<p>Islam is indeed an acceptable target for mockery, as are all religions. I will personally commit to blogging on the topic myself if one or other ayatollah around the place comes out against girl piddle. It just so happens that Popey is the one making a sexist arse of himself today. Why do you Catholics insist on punishing the rest of the world for the fact that your leader is a twat? I mean &#8211; you chose him, not us.</p>
<p>Etc.</p>
<p>On other topics &#8211; was interested to hear nappywearing is making men infertile. Freaky. How many of you wear nappies?</p>
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		<title>By: tim f</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30284</link>
		<dc:creator>tim f</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Red Maria - 

Even if that were true, it wouldn&#039;t on its own make her wrong on this specific point, would it? If that&#039;s the extent of your argument you may as well say &quot;The Pope is wrong, but it&#039;s unfair to say so&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Maria &#8211; </p>
<p>Even if that were true, it wouldn&#8217;t on its own make her wrong on this specific point, would it? If that&#8217;s the extent of your argument you may as well say &#8220;The Pope is wrong, but it&#8217;s unfair to say so&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Shatterface</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30282</link>
		<dc:creator>Shatterface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hardly surprising is it? If you can believe in one absurdity you can believe in any number of others. If you can accept that the universe was created by an all powerful superbeing who impregnated a virgin so that she&#039;d raise a child who would die by crucifixion in order that our souls can enter the kingdom of heaven, then believing that having some control over your own body will have terrible effects sounds almost rational by comparison. 

What&#039;s depressing is that many of those attacking God&#039;s Rotweiler on this case will still real him out as a moral authority if he just happens to share our opinion on other matters, such as the Invasion of Iraq.

 The same happens with the Royal family: one minute Prince Charles is a reactionary old fart, the next he&#039;s an authority on GM food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hardly surprising is it? If you can believe in one absurdity you can believe in any number of others. If you can accept that the universe was created by an all powerful superbeing who impregnated a virgin so that she&#8217;d raise a child who would die by crucifixion in order that our souls can enter the kingdom of heaven, then believing that having some control over your own body will have terrible effects sounds almost rational by comparison. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s depressing is that many of those attacking God&#8217;s Rotweiler on this case will still real him out as a moral authority if he just happens to share our opinion on other matters, such as the Invasion of Iraq.</p>
<p> The same happens with the Royal family: one minute Prince Charles is a reactionary old fart, the next he&#8217;s an authority on GM food.</p>
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		<title>By: Red Maria</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30280</link>
		<dc:creator>Red Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out come all the anti-Catholic bigots, who, undoubtedly imagine themselves paragons of liberal prejudice-free values. There&#039;s no way Laurie Penny would be able to get away with such a disgraceful piece of distorted bigoted badly-written crap if the word Moslem or Islam were inserted in place of Catholic. She should be ashamed of herself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out come all the anti-Catholic bigots, who, undoubtedly imagine themselves paragons of liberal prejudice-free values. There&#8217;s no way Laurie Penny would be able to get away with such a disgraceful piece of distorted bigoted badly-written crap if the word Moslem or Islam were inserted in place of Catholic. She should be ashamed of herself.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30275</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, love the photo Laurie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, love the photo Laurie.</p>
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		<title>By: Alisdair Cameron</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30254</link>
		<dc:creator>Alisdair Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 16:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So ludicrous, it &lt;i&gt;almost&lt;/i&gt; seems unfair to attack &#039;em, because it&#039;s like shooting fish in a barrel. Almost, but not quite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So ludicrous, it <i>almost</i> seems unfair to attack &#8216;em, because it&#8217;s like shooting fish in a barrel. Almost, but not quite.</p>
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		<title>By: david brough (leading businessman)</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30236</link>
		<dc:creator>david brough (leading businessman)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 14:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally think overpopulation, caused by these reactionary dickheads blocking contraception and education, is a far more severe environmental problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally think overpopulation, caused by these reactionary dickheads blocking contraception and education, is a far more severe environmental problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiritof1976</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/12/vatican-in-rampant-misogyny-shocker/#comment-30199</link>
		<dc:creator>Spiritof1976</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wee is unholy and environmentally damaging? God, this stuff is beyond parody.


Somebody call Greenpeace and ask them to demand the banning of golden showers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wee is unholy and environmentally damaging? God, this stuff is beyond parody.</p>
<p>Somebody call Greenpeace and ask them to demand the banning of golden showers.</p>
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		<title>By: Akheloios</title>
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		<dc:creator>Akheloios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re against abortion, condoms, homosexual rights and now the pill. It&#039;s pretty obvious they want every woman to breed for Jesus, many, many times. They&#039;re a bunch of fruitcakes who don&#039;t believe in any kind of moderation of their medieval world view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re against abortion, condoms, homosexual rights and now the pill. It&#8217;s pretty obvious they want every woman to breed for Jesus, many, many times. They&#8217;re a bunch of fruitcakes who don&#8217;t believe in any kind of moderation of their medieval world view.</p>
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		<title>By: Claude</title>
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		<dc:creator>Claude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve got to hand it to them. They&#039;re not short of imagination at the Vatican. They&#039;d make excellent comedians!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve got to hand it to them. They&#8217;re not short of imagination at the Vatican. They&#8217;d make excellent comedians!</p>
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