Comments on: Today’s London march for Palestine http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/ creating a new liberal-left force Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:15:23 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: jungle http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-31438 jungle Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:20:19 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-31438 cjcjc: "According to the HP account the person introducing Annie Lennox said “We all support Hamas” - to which there was a resounding cheer. True or false?" True that he said it, but false that there was widespread "wild cheering". Quite a number of people booed, and probably many more would have booed if they'd been expecting him to say it. Most other things got much larger cheers, including the guy from the Jewish peace movement. cjcjc: “According to the HP account the person introducing Annie Lennox said “We all support Hamas” – to which there was a resounding cheer.

True or false?”

True that he said it, but false that there was widespread “wild cheering”. Quite a number of people booed, and probably many more would have booed if they’d been expecting him to say it. Most other things got much larger cheers, including the guy from the Jewish peace movement.

]]> By: ippimail.com » Blog Archive » Sunny Hundal: The left’s portrayal of Hamas as brave freedom fighters sticks in my craw http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-30755 ippimail.com » Blog Archive » Sunny Hundal: The left’s portrayal of Hamas as brave freedom fighters sticks in my craw Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:23:52 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-30755 [...] The problem with Palestinian leadership has been their inability to provide moral clarity. To see them as merely as freedom fighters is an injustice to selfless freedom fighters from across the world, including Martin Luther King, who stood for higher principles. When I march for a free Palestine, I cannot march for Hamas. [...] [...] The problem with Palestinian leadership has been their inability to provide moral clarity. To see them as merely as freedom fighters is an injustice to selfless freedom fighters from across the world, including Martin Luther King, who stood for higher principles. When I march for a free Palestine, I cannot march for Hamas. [...]

]]> By: Sunny Hundal: The left's portrayal of Hamas as brave freedom fighters sticks in my craw - Front Page News - NewsSpotz http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-30751 Sunny Hundal: The left's portrayal of Hamas as brave freedom fighters sticks in my craw - Front Page News - NewsSpotz Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:08:21 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-30751 [...] including Martin Luther King, who stood for higher principles. When I march for a free Palestine, I cannot march for Hamas.Furthermore, not only are Hamas letting the Palestinian people down, but as I said last week, so is [...] [...] including Martin Luther King, who stood for higher principles. When I march for a free Palestine, I cannot march for Hamas.Furthermore, not only are Hamas letting the Palestinian people down, but as I said last week, so is [...]

]]> By: cjcjc http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-30206 cjcjc Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:38:44 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-30206 septicisle: did you hear Tamimi? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3D8F-2Iujk And is that the lovely George Galloway I see in the background? septicisle: did you hear Tamimi?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3D8F-2Iujk

And is that the lovely George Galloway I see in the background?

]]> By: Sunny Hundal http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-30133 Sunny Hundal Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:30:15 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-30133 I ran into Somerfield on the way, and this is all they had... the other one was yellow! So annoying... No worries I ran into Somerfield on the way, and this is all they had… the other one was yellow! So annoying…
No worries

]]> By: cjcjc http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-30078 cjcjc Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:11:10 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-30078 Didn't you have a black marker pen by the way?! I should say that I never thought you would actually make/carry that banner so I must apologise for my lack of faith! Didn’t you have a black marker pen by the way?!

I should say that I never thought you would actually make/carry that banner so I must apologise for my lack of faith!

]]> By: Septicisle http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-29991 Septicisle Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:51:43 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-29991 cjcjc: I was somewhat out of range and only half picked up the intro to Annie Lennox, but I didn't hear that, or any cheer. cjcjc: I was somewhat out of range and only half picked up the intro to Annie Lennox, but I didn’t hear that, or any cheer.

]]> By: Sunny Hundal http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-29924 Sunny Hundal Sun, 11 Jan 2009 14:56:40 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-29924 <i>Doesn’t the prescence of Azzam “I support suicide bombers” Tamimi also rather undermine things?</i> Well, that is down to the problem that the SWP organise these things unfortunately... Doesn’t the prescence of Azzam “I support suicide bombers” Tamimi also rather undermine things?

Well, that is down to the problem that the SWP organise these things unfortunately…

]]> By: Newmania http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-29897 Newmania Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:06:03 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-29897 If you are against the IDF and hamas surely the same net effect coul dbe achieved by staying at home ? If you are against the IDF and hamas surely the same net effect coul dbe achieved by staying at home ?

]]> By: cjcjc http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-29894 cjcjc Sun, 11 Jan 2009 10:30:00 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-29894 According to the HP account the person introducing Annie Lennox said "We all support Hamas" - to which there was a resounding cheer. True or false? Doesn't the prescence of Azzam "I support suicide bombers" Tamimi also rather undermine things? According to the HP account the person introducing Annie Lennox said “We all support Hamas” – to which there was a resounding cheer.

True or false?

Doesn’t the prescence of Azzam “I support suicide bombers” Tamimi also rather undermine things?

]]> By: Sunny Hundal http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-29879 Sunny Hundal Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:34:46 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-29879 Carlo - I woudn't be surprised by 100k, though its difficult to tell when you're walking around in a crowd thats taken up the entire road and its impossible to move faster than the crowd. septicisle - I know. That was as unsurprising as the snow today. Carlo – I woudn’t be surprised by 100k, though its difficult to tell when you’re walking around in a crowd thats taken up the entire road and its impossible to move faster than the crowd.

septicisle – I know. That was as unsurprising as the snow today.

]]> By: Carlo http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-29876 Carlo Sun, 11 Jan 2009 00:19:18 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-29876 Sunny, You're quoting a figure lower than Sky News were quoting, around 100K which is lower than the estimated 175K. It's not a numbers game I grant you but the police’s offensive total of 15K borders on the absurd. To deliberately erase the number of people peacefully protesting on a matter of life and death is contemptuous in the extreme and more proof of the politicisation of the force. Good work all. You should be proud but remember - the fight has only just begun. Sunny,

You’re quoting a figure lower than Sky News were quoting, around 100K which is lower than the estimated 175K. It’s not a numbers game I grant you but the police’s offensive total of 15K borders on the absurd.

To deliberately erase the number of people peacefully protesting on a matter of life and death is contemptuous in the extreme and more proof of the politicisation of the force.

Good work all. You should be proud but remember – the fight has only just begun.

]]> By: Lee Griffin http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-29874 Lee Griffin Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:55:15 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-29874 "Oh wow 50,000-70,000 out of how many millions of people in London?" You can only judge the success of a demo by the relative terms of how many people usually turn out. This turn out is definitely on the more succesful side by that reckoning. Wish I could have made it, maybe next time (I hope there isn't a next time). “Oh wow 50,000-70,000 out of how many millions of people in London?”

You can only judge the success of a demo by the relative terms of how many people usually turn out. This turn out is definitely on the more succesful side by that reckoning. Wish I could have made it, maybe next time (I hope there isn’t a next time).

]]> By: Septicisle http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-29873 Septicisle Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:54:20 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-29873 As usual, Harry's Place is doing the job of tarring everyone on the march with the same brush: http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/01/10/hey-ho-israel-has-gotta-go/ Not a single mention of the number of Jews protesting or their very many banners, which outnumbered the Hamas/Hizbullah/etc ones by I would say over 100 to 1. I saw maybe 2 Hamas banners all day, if that, far outnumbered by Hizbullah ones. As usual, Harry’s Place is doing the job of tarring everyone on the march with the same brush: http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/01/10/hey-ho-israel-has-gotta-go/

Not a single mention of the number of Jews protesting or their very many banners, which outnumbered the Hamas/Hizbullah/etc ones by I would say over 100 to 1. I saw maybe 2 Hamas banners all day, if that, far outnumbered by Hizbullah ones.

]]> By: septicisle http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-29871 septicisle Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:45:33 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-29871 I spent around hour and a half trying to find Sunny and spectacularly failed. Ah well, it was still a good day. I spent around hour and a half trying to find Sunny and spectacularly failed. Ah well, it was still a good day.

]]> By: Sunny Hundal http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-29870 Sunny Hundal Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:32:46 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-29870 Nice one Daniel! Maybe next week. Let's see how the week's events go... Jamie - heh, yeah it was difficult to find anyone really. I was trying to find 5 people and managed only 1. Ah well, have linked your round-up now. Nice one Daniel! Maybe next week. Let’s see how the week’s events go…

Jamie – heh, yeah it was difficult to find anyone really. I was trying to find 5 people and managed only 1. Ah well, have linked your round-up now.

]]> By: Daniel Z http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-29868 Daniel Z Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:20:18 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-29868 Thank you for going. As you already know I had once again daddy duty - but I will try to be on any next demo. I believe that that I have seen enough carnage now I must be there in solidarity with all my friends and believes and take a stance! Thank you for going. As you already know I had once again daddy duty – but I will try to be on any next demo. I believe that that I have seen enough carnage now I must be there in solidarity with all my friends and believes and take a stance!

]]> By: SE http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-29867 SE Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:14:56 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-29867 Oh wow 50,000-70,000 out of how many millions of people in London? And signs that say 'Only sharing will save the world' These people are deluded if they think this I/P debate is just about sharing, it goes much deeper then that, especially with the kind of people who are on Israels side (Evangelicals, Xenophobes) Oh wow 50,000-70,000 out of how many millions of people in London?
And signs that say ‘Only sharing will save the world’
These people are deluded if they think this I/P debate is just about sharing, it goes much deeper then that, especially with the kind of people who are on Israels side (Evangelicals, Xenophobes)

]]> By: Goran http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-29866 Goran Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:13:18 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-29866 'Free Palestine' - what a ridiculous slogan. The occupied territories will never be 'free' Even if the occupation ended these places be subjected to barbaric and repressive despotism, as is the nature of Arab Muslim societies. It might still be 'free' in your mind maybe, but only because you don't have to live there. ‘Free Palestine’ – what a ridiculous slogan. The occupied territories will never be ‘free’ Even if the occupation ended these places be subjected to barbaric and repressive despotism, as is the nature of Arab Muslim societies. It might still be ‘free’ in your mind maybe, but only because you don’t have to live there.

]]> By: Jamie Sport http://liberalconspiracy.org/2009/01/10/todays-london-march-for-palestine/#comment-29865 Jamie Sport Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:11:49 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1877#comment-29865 I kept an eye out for you Sunny but 69,998 other people must have got in the way! It was a really good day, a positive atmosphere, a diverse and generally well behaved crowd and what I thought was minimal trouble. But by lord was it cold! I kept an eye out for you Sunny but 69,998 other people must have got in the way!

It was a really good day, a positive atmosphere, a diverse and generally well behaved crowd and what I thought was minimal trouble. But by lord was it cold!

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