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		<title>By: john b</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24213</link>
		<dc:creator>john b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who thinks that Livingstone lost due to his personal unpopularity, rather than Labour&#039;s national unpopularity, is silly. He massively outperformed Labour&#039;s nationwide council vote and its opinion poll ratings - just not by enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who thinks that Livingstone lost due to his personal unpopularity, rather than Labour&#8217;s national unpopularity, is silly. He massively outperformed Labour&#8217;s nationwide council vote and its opinion poll ratings &#8211; just not by enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24194</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I just had that pointed out by a colleague...</description>
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		<title>By: votedforken</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24193</link>
		<dc:creator>votedforken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the reason that MayorWatch, Boriswatch and Torytroll are all speaking is obvious - because they are the main websites (along with Dave Hill) holding Boris Johnson to account. In doing so they have often made news - for example see the Dave Hill routemaster expose during the election and Torytroll&#039;s Gilligan sockpuppeting extravaganza (and Gilligan&#039;s attacks on Boriswatch in his Standard column).

Ken&#039;s doing the right thing here however you look at it, pulling together the anti-Tory political strands in London to discuss how to preserve what&#039;s good and continue to improve things.

Finally I slightly disagree with Leon - Ken&#039;s vote was actually up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the reason that MayorWatch, Boriswatch and Torytroll are all speaking is obvious &#8211; because they are the main websites (along with Dave Hill) holding Boris Johnson to account. In doing so they have often made news &#8211; for example see the Dave Hill routemaster expose during the election and Torytroll&#8217;s Gilligan sockpuppeting extravaganza (and Gilligan&#8217;s attacks on Boriswatch in his Standard column).</p>
<p>Ken&#8217;s doing the right thing here however you look at it, pulling together the anti-Tory political strands in London to discuss how to preserve what&#8217;s good and continue to improve things.</p>
<p>Finally I slightly disagree with Leon &#8211; Ken&#8217;s vote was actually up.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24187</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Boris was overwhelmingly supported because we had had enough of Ken.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not strictly true that is it; Ken&#039;s vote was down due to the failings of the national party in power and a nasty smear campaign by the Evening Standard. 

Boris was voted in by huge landslide nor is it clear that the whole of London had &#039;had enough&#039; of Ken...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Boris was overwhelmingly supported because we had had enough of Ken.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not strictly true that is it; Ken&#8217;s vote was down due to the failings of the national party in power and a nasty smear campaign by the Evening Standard. </p>
<p>Boris was voted in by huge landslide nor is it clear that the whole of London had &#8216;had enough&#8217; of Ken&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lilliput</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24186</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilliput</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe I&#039;m missing something here but why doesn&#039;t Ken help Boris to make London a greater city instead of trying to fight him to get London back under his control ? Boris was overwhelmingly supported because we had had enough of Ken. Its like McCain trying to undermine Obama and even he is calling for the parties to work together. What a waste of energy.

And Emma, I believe that the Labour nanny state policies have directly increased the number of bullies and gang members by allowing the proliferation of fatherless families. Isn&#039;t it time for a change - at least give Boris a chance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe I&#8217;m missing something here but why doesn&#8217;t Ken help Boris to make London a greater city instead of trying to fight him to get London back under his control ? Boris was overwhelmingly supported because we had had enough of Ken. Its like McCain trying to undermine Obama and even he is calling for the parties to work together. What a waste of energy.</p>
<p>And Emma, I believe that the Labour nanny state policies have directly increased the number of bullies and gang members by allowing the proliferation of fatherless families. Isn&#8217;t it time for a change &#8211; at least give Boris a chance?</p>
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		<title>By: Emma-Jane Cross</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24177</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma-Jane Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it’s great to see an attempt to build a broad alliance online to build a better London it’s really disappointing that this alliance is not broad enough to include the young people of London.

Social justice, environmental protection, good community relations and cultural innovation” are all issues that affect young people in the capital but nowhere on the Progressive London website are young people mentioned and there is no sign whatsoever that Progressive London has any policies to help them and to be honest it really isn&#039;t good enough Ken. 

If many of the problems associated with young people in the capital including gang culture and knife crime are to be tackled, organisations such as Progressive London need to give London’s youth a voice.  At BeatBullying (www.beatbullying.org) we’re actively involving young people in our attempts to improve the city they live in through schemes such as Peer Mentoring and Peer Listening which place trained young people as the first line of intervention against bullying and youth violence”

Young people are very much the future of a progressive capital.  We need to make sure that they are empowered in attempts to improve it, not left out and then blamed for the consequences.

Emma-Jane Cross, Chief Executive of Beatbullying</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it’s great to see an attempt to build a broad alliance online to build a better London it’s really disappointing that this alliance is not broad enough to include the young people of London.</p>
<p>Social justice, environmental protection, good community relations and cultural innovation” are all issues that affect young people in the capital but nowhere on the Progressive London website are young people mentioned and there is no sign whatsoever that Progressive London has any policies to help them and to be honest it really isn&#8217;t good enough Ken. </p>
<p>If many of the problems associated with young people in the capital including gang culture and knife crime are to be tackled, organisations such as Progressive London need to give London’s youth a voice.  At BeatBullying (www.beatbullying.org) we’re actively involving young people in our attempts to improve the city they live in through schemes such as Peer Mentoring and Peer Listening which place trained young people as the first line of intervention against bullying and youth violence”</p>
<p>Young people are very much the future of a progressive capital.  We need to make sure that they are empowered in attempts to improve it, not left out and then blamed for the consequences.</p>
<p>Emma-Jane Cross, Chief Executive of Beatbullying</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24166</link>
		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 11:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well looking at the website he did write all the content which is all about...him!
Building it is hardly a difficult or expensive undertaking.
Anyway, how much does he earn from the radio, media, Chavez consulting etc?
10 grand... or more...wouldn&#039;t be much, certainly not for this kind of ego-stroking exercise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well looking at the website he did write all the content which is all about&#8230;him!<br />
Building it is hardly a difficult or expensive undertaking.<br />
Anyway, how much does he earn from the radio, media, Chavez consulting etc?<br />
10 grand&#8230; or more&#8230;wouldn&#8217;t be much, certainly not for this kind of ego-stroking exercise.</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24158</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As for who’s behind it, it’s the chap with the whiny voice and the newts. Hardly a state secret, is it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So he built the website, wrote all the content, is organising the event on his own (plus will be running it on the day solo), paying 5-10 grand out of his own pocket for the venue then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As for who’s behind it, it’s the chap with the whiny voice and the newts. Hardly a state secret, is it?</p></blockquote>
<p>So he built the website, wrote all the content, is organising the event on his own (plus will be running it on the day solo), paying 5-10 grand out of his own pocket for the venue then?</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24147</link>
		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I can see from the website PL = Ken and not much more.
Ken&#039;s plan, Ken this, Ken that, Ken the other....
Prepared to offer good odds that it will be moribund well before 2012.

EJB - I was going to make a similar point.
And didn&#039;t Ken lie about fare increases in the 2004 election campaign?
Anyway, who cares?  These are simply his death throes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I can see from the website PL = Ken and not much more.<br />
Ken&#8217;s plan, Ken this, Ken that, Ken the other&#8230;.<br />
Prepared to offer good odds that it will be moribund well before 2012.</p>
<p>EJB &#8211; I was going to make a similar point.<br />
And didn&#8217;t Ken lie about fare increases in the 2004 election campaign?<br />
Anyway, who cares?  These are simply his death throes.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24143</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No invite for me either!

Possbly because I&#039;m opposed to Ken running as mayor next time :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No invite for me either!</p>
<p>Possbly because I&#8217;m opposed to Ken running as mayor next time <img src='http://liberalconspiracy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Band</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24142</link>
		<dc:creator>John Band</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooops. If I try and excuse myself by saying stuff about confusing eastern European last names and first names, that&#039;ll only make things worse, won&#039;t it?

For the avoidance of doubt, I meant Adam and Tom...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooops. If I try and excuse myself by saying stuff about confusing eastern European last names and first names, that&#8217;ll only make things worse, won&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>For the avoidance of doubt, I meant Adam and Tom&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Heath</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24141</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;This is utter win, I’m there, we should all be there, and I’m mildly grumpy that whoever invited Aaron and Tom never invited me… John Band&lt;/em&gt;

Whooaaah there! I&#039;ve not been invited. And as as I flit between Nottingham and Tallinn, it&#039;s unlikely I&#039;d be able to attend anyway. I&#039;m not a Londoner.

Maybe you mean Adam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This is utter win, I’m there, we should all be there, and I’m mildly grumpy that whoever invited Aaron and Tom never invited me… John Band</em></p>
<p>Whooaaah there! I&#8217;ve not been invited. And as as I flit between Nottingham and Tallinn, it&#8217;s unlikely I&#8217;d be able to attend anyway. I&#8217;m not a Londoner.</p>
<p>Maybe you mean Adam.</p>
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		<title>By: John Band</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24140</link>
		<dc:creator>John Band</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 01:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whilst I&#039;m aware LC is a broad church and we&#039;ve a lot of differing viewpoints, I&#039;m fairly sure that &quot;if you&#039;d rather Boris than Ken, you don&#039;t belong here&quot; is a pretty strong guiding maxim. 

This is utter win, I&#039;m there, we should all be there, and I&#039;m mildly grumpy that whoever invited Aaron and Tom never invited me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whilst I&#8217;m aware LC is a broad church and we&#8217;ve a lot of differing viewpoints, I&#8217;m fairly sure that &#8220;if you&#8217;d rather Boris than Ken, you don&#8217;t belong here&#8221; is a pretty strong guiding maxim. </p>
<p>This is utter win, I&#8217;m there, we should all be there, and I&#8217;m mildly grumpy that whoever invited Aaron and Tom never invited me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24138</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken Ivingstone is only progressive in that he has spent the last 30 yrs progressing his career in local government politics.  The last thing KL and his failed trot  SWP/Socialist Alliance cohorts want is a well  educated well trained indpendent minded electorate who would rather support themselves that rely on state hand outs. If we want progressive politics , then we should stop civil servants in local government standing as councillors.  Local government has become a massive employment bureau for middle class white collar labour voting administrators. A highly educated and  skilled fit population bursting with initiative, entrepreneurial  and  pioneering spririt would make many people on the government gravy train surplus to requirements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken Ivingstone is only progressive in that he has spent the last 30 yrs progressing his career in local government politics.  The last thing KL and his failed trot  SWP/Socialist Alliance cohorts want is a well  educated well trained indpendent minded electorate who would rather support themselves that rely on state hand outs. If we want progressive politics , then we should stop civil servants in local government standing as councillors.  Local government has become a massive employment bureau for middle class white collar labour voting administrators. A highly educated and  skilled fit population bursting with initiative, entrepreneurial  and  pioneering spririt would make many people on the government gravy train surplus to requirements.</p>
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		<title>By: chavscum</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24137</link>
		<dc:creator>chavscum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Cruddas! The man who bought a home in Notting Hill so his kids didn&#039;t have to go to the same schools as his constituents. Another &#039;kin socialist hypocrite.

Good to see Boris is gradually dismantling Ken&#039;s bureaucracy, money for cronies and expensive pet projects to give us Londoners value for money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Cruddas! The man who bought a home in Notting Hill so his kids didn&#8217;t have to go to the same schools as his constituents. Another &#8216;kin socialist hypocrite.</p>
<p>Good to see Boris is gradually dismantling Ken&#8217;s bureaucracy, money for cronies and expensive pet projects to give us Londoners value for money.</p>
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		<title>By: Newmnia</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24128</link>
		<dc:creator>Newmnia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blimey so the Liberal Party is openly endorsing  Ken Livingstone in cahoots with his  SWP cohorts  , against Bori s. Given that  the votes that actually win and lose Lib Dem seats are wavering Tories I am fairly amazed at the men in beards  courting this sort of Publicity

This could be good !
( Dale might like it )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blimey so the Liberal Party is openly endorsing  Ken Livingstone in cahoots with his  SWP cohorts  , against Bori s. Given that  the votes that actually win and lose Lib Dem seats are wavering Tories I am fairly amazed at the men in beards  courting this sort of Publicity</p>
<p>This could be good !<br />
( Dale might like it )</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie Rigg</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24127</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie Rigg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When did we get co-opted into the Re-elect Ken thing then? Not something I, as a Liberal, want any part of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When did we get co-opted into the Re-elect Ken thing then? Not something I, as a Liberal, want any part of.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayyan</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24126</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ask not what your city can do for you: ask what you can do for your city.

I&#039;ll be getting involved!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask not what your city can do for you: ask what you can do for your city.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be getting involved!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24122</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seconded, Adam - I&#039;m taking part because I&#039;ve, at various points, voted for all the parties mentioned there, but never for the Conservatives.  Boris is busy proving why - his policies betray his instincts as illiberal, regressive and bad for the environment.  People like Jenny Jones, Len Duvall and Mike Tuffrey have, as opposition AMs, bugger all power but quite a lot in common politically, so why not bring what they have together, er, together, to try and form what London has lacked so far, proper opposition?

As for who&#039;s behind it, it&#039;s the chap with the whiny voice and the newts.  Hardly a state secret, is it?

EJB - fares, eh?
One point is that *Britain&#039;s* transport fares are higher than the rest of the world - London&#039;s, certainly for buses (the Tube is a one-off, of course), are mostly *less* than the rest of the UK.  As an example, a single two miles into Birmingham from my parent&#039;s is £1.50, in London it would be 90p.  In 2000 it would have been £1 in London, so it&#039;s actually gone down in cash terms, let alone allowing for inflation.  Travelcard fare rises are partially outside Mayoral control, which again emphasises that there&#039;s a UK-wide problem of fares being extortionate under the privatised rail structure.  I&#039;ll leave as an exercise for the reader to dig up Boris Johnson and Ken Livingstone&#039;s expressed views on privatised railways.

The other point is that Boris has (quietly) announced that he&#039;s putting fares up at RPI+1% for the next few years, but the quid pro quo on previous fare rises, congestion charge etc. has been that there&#039;s a lot of investment led by competent professionals directed by people who actually understand public transport.  This is no longer the case, although at least we&#039;ve still got the competent professionals.  Therefore a kind of agreement has been broken, and we&#039;re entitled to ask why he thinks its necessary to put fares up, particularly if he&#039;s so shit hot at saving money, runs things so much more efficiently and is totally averse to spending money even looking at new projects.  Where&#039;s the cash going, Boris?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seconded, Adam &#8211; I&#8217;m taking part because I&#8217;ve, at various points, voted for all the parties mentioned there, but never for the Conservatives.  Boris is busy proving why &#8211; his policies betray his instincts as illiberal, regressive and bad for the environment.  People like Jenny Jones, Len Duvall and Mike Tuffrey have, as opposition AMs, bugger all power but quite a lot in common politically, so why not bring what they have together, er, together, to try and form what London has lacked so far, proper opposition?</p>
<p>As for who&#8217;s behind it, it&#8217;s the chap with the whiny voice and the newts.  Hardly a state secret, is it?</p>
<p>EJB &#8211; fares, eh?<br />
One point is that *Britain&#8217;s* transport fares are higher than the rest of the world &#8211; London&#8217;s, certainly for buses (the Tube is a one-off, of course), are mostly *less* than the rest of the UK.  As an example, a single two miles into Birmingham from my parent&#8217;s is £1.50, in London it would be 90p.  In 2000 it would have been £1 in London, so it&#8217;s actually gone down in cash terms, let alone allowing for inflation.  Travelcard fare rises are partially outside Mayoral control, which again emphasises that there&#8217;s a UK-wide problem of fares being extortionate under the privatised rail structure.  I&#8217;ll leave as an exercise for the reader to dig up Boris Johnson and Ken Livingstone&#8217;s expressed views on privatised railways.</p>
<p>The other point is that Boris has (quietly) announced that he&#8217;s putting fares up at RPI+1% for the next few years, but the quid pro quo on previous fare rises, congestion charge etc. has been that there&#8217;s a lot of investment led by competent professionals directed by people who actually understand public transport.  This is no longer the case, although at least we&#8217;ve still got the competent professionals.  Therefore a kind of agreement has been broken, and we&#8217;re entitled to ask why he thinks its necessary to put fares up, particularly if he&#8217;s so shit hot at saving money, runs things so much more efficiently and is totally averse to spending money even looking at new projects.  Where&#8217;s the cash going, Boris?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bienkov</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24120</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Bienkov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 18:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was invited to take part in a bloggers panel discussion at the PL conference with Tom from Boris Watch and Martin from Mayorwatch. We will talk about what Boris has done in power and what role bloggers have in London etc etc. However, as Leon said above, speaking there is not the same as an endorsement.

The Liberal Democrat and Green leaders on the London Assembly will also be talking there. Like any coalition, different people want different things out of it. Obviously Ken has his own motivations.

On the London Assembly, all of the &#039;left&#039; parties have been broadly in opposition to Boris Johnson&#039;s major policies so far. I expect they will want to emphasise that at the conference. Unlike national politics, opposition parties on the assembly do not otherwise have much of a public voice against the mayor (there is no &#039;shadow mayor&#039; for instance). I expect they hope this will help them get one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was invited to take part in a bloggers panel discussion at the PL conference with Tom from Boris Watch and Martin from Mayorwatch. We will talk about what Boris has done in power and what role bloggers have in London etc etc. However, as Leon said above, speaking there is not the same as an endorsement.</p>
<p>The Liberal Democrat and Green leaders on the London Assembly will also be talking there. Like any coalition, different people want different things out of it. Obviously Ken has his own motivations.</p>
<p>On the London Assembly, all of the &#8216;left&#8217; parties have been broadly in opposition to Boris Johnson&#8217;s major policies so far. I expect they will want to emphasise that at the conference. Unlike national politics, opposition parties on the assembly do not otherwise have much of a public voice against the mayor (there is no &#8217;shadow mayor&#8217; for instance). I expect they hope this will help them get one.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Heath</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24115</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So what ?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would argue that if the party itself isn&#039;t involved, and your MP isn&#039;t one of the coalition members, I don&#039;t see what it&#039;s got to do with him.

That said, it&#039;s your MP and your prerogative, so go nuts!</description>
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<p>I would argue that if the party itself isn&#8217;t involved, and your MP isn&#8217;t one of the coalition members, I don&#8217;t see what it&#8217;s got to do with him.</p>
<p>That said, it&#8217;s your MP and your prerogative, so go nuts!</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24114</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken really can&#039;t get over losing can he?  Risk for the progressives is this will just be seen as Ken&#039;s &quot;give me back the job&quot; hobby horse.  How about some fresh faces from the Left?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken really can&#8217;t get over losing can he?  Risk for the progressives is this will just be seen as Ken&#8217;s &#8220;give me back the job&#8221; hobby horse.  How about some fresh faces from the Left?</p>
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		<title>By: BenSix</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24113</link>
		<dc:creator>BenSix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Who else is involved? How is it organised? Does it have any resources (volunteers, money, offices) and where did they come from?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

All good questions, for which, sadly, I don&#039;t have answers.

Ben</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Who else is involved? How is it organised? Does it have any resources (volunteers, money, offices) and where did they come from?&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>All good questions, for which, sadly, I don&#8217;t have answers.</p>
<p>Ben</p>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24111</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;So what ?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, who&#039;s behind it?</description>
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<p>So, who&#8217;s behind it?</p>
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		<title>By: Newmania</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/11/11/progressive-london/#comment-24110</link>
		<dc:creator>Newmania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I can see, there is no official involvement from the parties in question.


So what ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I can see, there is no official involvement from the parties in question.</p>
<p>So what ?</p>
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