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		<title>By: Carl Eve</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23472</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Chavscum - you evaded the reply once again by doing a nice little sidestep. Black cab on the road again, eh?

And here&#039;s a small geography lesson for you Londoners out there:

Plymouth is in Devon, not Dorset.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done Chavscum &#8211; you evaded the reply once again by doing a nice little sidestep. Black cab on the road again, eh?</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s a small geography lesson for you Londoners out there:</p>
<p>Plymouth is in Devon, not Dorset.</p>
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		<title>By: chavscum</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23441</link>
		<dc:creator>chavscum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aahh, Billy Bragg. The consumate socialist hypocrite. He berates the residents of Barking &amp; Dagenham to welcome mass immigration that is rapidly changing their environment, from a country mansion in &quot;white than the ginger girl in girls aloud&quot; Dorset. What a C***!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aahh, Billy Bragg. The consumate socialist hypocrite. He berates the residents of Barking &amp; Dagenham to welcome mass immigration that is rapidly changing their environment, from a country mansion in &#8220;white than the ginger girl in girls aloud&#8221; Dorset. What a C***!</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Eve</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23416</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, he moved to be with someone else&#039;s ready made family, who wanted him to live in Dorset. 

Unlike the guy who works down our chipshop, who swears he&#039;s Elvis

God know&#039;s why I said that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, he moved to be with someone else&#8217;s ready made family, who wanted him to live in Dorset. </p>
<p>Unlike the guy who works down our chipshop, who swears he&#8217;s Elvis</p>
<p>God know&#8217;s why I said that.</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23415</link>
		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would that be the same Billy Bragg who moved his family to multicultural Dorset?  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would that be the same Billy Bragg who moved his family to multicultural Dorset?  <img src='http://liberalconspiracy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Carl Eve</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23414</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I am afraid the Cbeebies modern socialist’s utopia just ain’t reality.&quot;

Look my little ray of sunshine, it&#039;s for kids, it teaches kids nice things. Even tolerating different opinions. Which isn&#039;t something the tabloids do, is it? 
Not tolerating bigots doesn&#039;t necessarily make someone a bigot. 
That&#039;s like calling Billy Bragg a Nazi &#039;cos he hates fascists. 

And as for &quot;Here in London we become increasingly segregated into racial, religious and social groups. The wider we open the door, the more divided we become.&quot; I think that&#039;s opened a door where we know what lies on the other side, don&#039;t we. 

Don&#039;t play the London card - because in a city of 18 million, I can&#039;t imagine you&#039;ve got the sole viewpoint. I&#039;m sure I can find someone else who will happily say they have some pretty nice neighbours who have come from oversees, pray with their arses in the air and have a funny accents. And before you ask, just &#039;cos I&#039;m from South Essex, worked in London through the 80s, and the 2000s, and spent my formative years visiting relatives in Stepney, don&#039;t think I don&#039;t know how you big city boys like to exaggerate.

I&#039;m happy for you to have your different opinions chavscum. I just think you should just keep them in the black cab you drive. 

(I had that Richard Littlejohn in the back of mine recently. I told him, in my best Derek and Clive voice &quot;get out the cab&quot;. You can imagine what he replied.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am afraid the Cbeebies modern socialist’s utopia just ain’t reality.&#8221;</p>
<p>Look my little ray of sunshine, it&#8217;s for kids, it teaches kids nice things. Even tolerating different opinions. Which isn&#8217;t something the tabloids do, is it?<br />
Not tolerating bigots doesn&#8217;t necessarily make someone a bigot.<br />
That&#8217;s like calling Billy Bragg a Nazi &#8216;cos he hates fascists. </p>
<p>And as for &#8220;Here in London we become increasingly segregated into racial, religious and social groups. The wider we open the door, the more divided we become.&#8221; I think that&#8217;s opened a door where we know what lies on the other side, don&#8217;t we. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t play the London card &#8211; because in a city of 18 million, I can&#8217;t imagine you&#8217;ve got the sole viewpoint. I&#8217;m sure I can find someone else who will happily say they have some pretty nice neighbours who have come from oversees, pray with their arses in the air and have a funny accents. And before you ask, just &#8216;cos I&#8217;m from South Essex, worked in London through the 80s, and the 2000s, and spent my formative years visiting relatives in Stepney, don&#8217;t think I don&#8217;t know how you big city boys like to exaggerate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy for you to have your different opinions chavscum. I just think you should just keep them in the black cab you drive. </p>
<p>(I had that Richard Littlejohn in the back of mine recently. I told him, in my best Derek and Clive voice &#8220;get out the cab&#8221;. You can imagine what he replied.)</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Heath</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23413</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:01:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I am afraid the Cbeebies modern socialist’s utopia just ain’t reality ~ chavscum&lt;/em&gt;

I know what you mean. I went to my back garden last night, and couldn&#039;t find Makka Pakka anywhere.

The lying socialist bastards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I am afraid the Cbeebies modern socialist’s utopia just ain’t reality ~ chavscum</em></p>
<p>I know what you mean. I went to my back garden last night, and couldn&#8217;t find Makka Pakka anywhere.</p>
<p>The lying socialist bastards.</p>
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		<title>By: chavscum</title>
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		<dc:creator>chavscum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You demonstrate the traits of a bigot, with your language and obvious intolerance of differing opinions and I suspect different social classes.

I am afraid the Cbeebies modern socialist’s utopia just ain’t reality. Here in London we become increasingly segregated into racial, religious and social groups. The wider we open the door, the more divided we become.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You demonstrate the traits of a bigot, with your language and obvious intolerance of differing opinions and I suspect different social classes.</p>
<p>I am afraid the Cbeebies modern socialist’s utopia just ain’t reality. Here in London we become increasingly segregated into racial, religious and social groups. The wider we open the door, the more divided we become.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Eve</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23404</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chavscum

I was using a comparison - in that Plymouth is not very mixed. In the same way, perhaps the Isles of Scilly aren&#039;t much mixed. Or Canvey Island for that matter. I like the ginger one from Girl&#039;s Aloud as it happens. I think she&#039;s got more gumption than the others, particularly as she&#039;s now said balls to the normal conventions and is happy with her skin colour. 

So stop milking an insult out of a mere metaphor (or similie, I alwasys confuse the two) - otherwise you&#039;re aptly proving the thread&#039;s entire point (in that plonkers wil complain, because they&#039;ll always find a way to complain because at heart, they are negative, bitter and twisted tits)

What the mix does is make people less fearful of difference. And thus less inclined to believe the raging bullshit which gets printed in publications like we&#039;ve mentioned enough times. 

So that&#039;s one of the reasons I like Cbeebies - it&#039;s kills bigots. 

&quot;Its strange, so-called liberals rarely send their children to multi-cultural schools. What are they scared of?&quot; - hmm... in my case, bigoted fuckwits, but seeing as they come in any colour, whatever school they go to, I guess my kids will meet them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chavscum</p>
<p>I was using a comparison &#8211; in that Plymouth is not very mixed. In the same way, perhaps the Isles of Scilly aren&#8217;t much mixed. Or Canvey Island for that matter. I like the ginger one from Girl&#8217;s Aloud as it happens. I think she&#8217;s got more gumption than the others, particularly as she&#8217;s now said balls to the normal conventions and is happy with her skin colour. </p>
<p>So stop milking an insult out of a mere metaphor (or similie, I alwasys confuse the two) &#8211; otherwise you&#8217;re aptly proving the thread&#8217;s entire point (in that plonkers wil complain, because they&#8217;ll always find a way to complain because at heart, they are negative, bitter and twisted tits)</p>
<p>What the mix does is make people less fearful of difference. And thus less inclined to believe the raging bullshit which gets printed in publications like we&#8217;ve mentioned enough times. </p>
<p>So that&#8217;s one of the reasons I like Cbeebies &#8211; it&#8217;s kills bigots. </p>
<p>&#8220;Its strange, so-called liberals rarely send their children to multi-cultural schools. What are they scared of?&#8221; &#8211; hmm&#8230; in my case, bigoted fuckwits, but seeing as they come in any colour, whatever school they go to, I guess my kids will meet them.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23399</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we can all agree that the BBC does expertise better than anyone else and that it does so because it can effectively shelter talent from direct commercial pressure which enables it to develop more freely and fully.

The downside of this is that the counter-argument of elitism is deployed to regular and good effect to effectively counterbalance any monopolising tendency.

When the BBC tries to be overly-populist (such as during much daytime output - especially on BBC1, BBC2, Radio1, Radio2 and the website) it is rightly criticised as failing or over-extending. 

Just as Newsnight can justify its continued existence in the schedule while garnering an audience of &#039;only&#039; 1m viewers by responding that these are the right 1m, the BBC and the license fee can continue to be justified by maintaining a balance between the breadth and depth of service. The BBC nevertheless cannot depend soley on the license fee, just as it cannot depend on the fee continuing at the same level in perpetuity - it must diversify its income streams in order to offset the risks to its existence placed by sudden changes in political culture and prevent it from becoming a political football dependent on partisan patronage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we can all agree that the BBC does expertise better than anyone else and that it does so because it can effectively shelter talent from direct commercial pressure which enables it to develop more freely and fully.</p>
<p>The downside of this is that the counter-argument of elitism is deployed to regular and good effect to effectively counterbalance any monopolising tendency.</p>
<p>When the BBC tries to be overly-populist (such as during much daytime output &#8211; especially on BBC1, BBC2, Radio1, Radio2 and the website) it is rightly criticised as failing or over-extending. </p>
<p>Just as Newsnight can justify its continued existence in the schedule while garnering an audience of &#8216;only&#8217; 1m viewers by responding that these are the right 1m, the BBC and the license fee can continue to be justified by maintaining a balance between the breadth and depth of service. The BBC nevertheless cannot depend soley on the license fee, just as it cannot depend on the fee continuing at the same level in perpetuity &#8211; it must diversify its income streams in order to offset the risks to its existence placed by sudden changes in political culture and prevent it from becoming a political football dependent on partisan patronage.</p>
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		<title>By: chavscum</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23398</link>
		<dc:creator>chavscum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 12:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you believe it is ok to make negative comments about people with ginger hair and pale white skin? Its strange, so-called liberals rarely send their children to multi-cultural schools. What are they scared of? On what basis do you feel an area with predominantly white people is unhealthy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you believe it is ok to make negative comments about people with ginger hair and pale white skin? Its strange, so-called liberals rarely send their children to multi-cultural schools. What are they scared of? On what basis do you feel an area with predominantly white people is unhealthy?</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Eve</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23389</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 10:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chavscum
No - I travelled the world well before working at the BBC. 

I did, however, travel to Eastbourne on the BBC expenses to interview the brother of a dead RMP. The second class train journey was a lot of fun and the scenery was lovely, thanks. I think it was a cheap day return ticket as well, and I brought my own sandwiches and flask.

So, you just missed out on that particulary Mail-justification thread, you great big tit.


And living in Plymouth, which is whiter than that ginger girl in Girls Aloud, I hope my kids learn that everyone&#039;s the same, even if they don&#039;t get to meet them all. So Cbeebies helps in that respect, although we do get back to the land of my fathers&#039; occasionally to get a healthier mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chavscum<br />
No &#8211; I travelled the world well before working at the BBC. </p>
<p>I did, however, travel to Eastbourne on the BBC expenses to interview the brother of a dead RMP. The second class train journey was a lot of fun and the scenery was lovely, thanks. I think it was a cheap day return ticket as well, and I brought my own sandwiches and flask.</p>
<p>So, you just missed out on that particulary Mail-justification thread, you great big tit.</p>
<p>And living in Plymouth, which is whiter than that ginger girl in Girls Aloud, I hope my kids learn that everyone&#8217;s the same, even if they don&#8217;t get to meet them all. So Cbeebies helps in that respect, although we do get back to the land of my fathers&#8217; occasionally to get a healthier mix.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Reed</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23378</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 21:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much Ado About Nothing, all this. If everyone who ever said or did anything stupid at work was suspended or sacked, nobody would have a job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much Ado About Nothing, all this. If everyone who ever said or did anything stupid at work was suspended or sacked, nobody would have a job.</p>
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		<title>By: chavscum</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23375</link>
		<dc:creator>chavscum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl (ex BBC researcher), did you travel the globe on BBC expenses?

Do you want your kids to watch &quot;all races and all ethnicities&quot; on the telly to make up for them not having those experiences in real life?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl (ex BBC researcher), did you travel the globe on BBC expenses?</p>
<p>Do you want your kids to watch &#8220;all races and all ethnicities&#8221; on the telly to make up for them not having those experiences in real life?</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23322</link>
		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Just for Cbeebies alone, it deserves a bit of leeway when two jokey plonkers make a right pigs ear of things. &lt;/i&gt;

No.

Well, rather, ditch the plonkers and all the rest of the me-too crap completely, cut the licence fee substantially, and shrink down to the quality (e.g. CBeebies, R4, R7) which other channels don&#039;t provide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Just for Cbeebies alone, it deserves a bit of leeway when two jokey plonkers make a right pigs ear of things. </i></p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>Well, rather, ditch the plonkers and all the rest of the me-too crap completely, cut the licence fee substantially, and shrink down to the quality (e.g. CBeebies, R4, R7) which other channels don&#8217;t provide.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie Rigg</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23321</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie Rigg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course it is, Aaron, it&#039;s voiced by Derek Jacobi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it is, Aaron, it&#8217;s voiced by Derek Jacobi</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Heath</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23320</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl,

Cbeebies rocks. I know when I make my kids their morning porridge, they&#039;re distracted by decent educationally minded TV, not adverts for toys and junk I can&#039;t afford.

That said, Night Garden is just plain spooky and has a strange effect on kids. I think it&#039;s some sort of Orwellian conditioning tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl,</p>
<p>Cbeebies rocks. I know when I make my kids their morning porridge, they&#8217;re distracted by decent educationally minded TV, not adverts for toys and junk I can&#8217;t afford.</p>
<p>That said, Night Garden is just plain spooky and has a strange effect on kids. I think it&#8217;s some sort of Orwellian conditioning tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Eve</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23314</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 01:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No thomas, I&#039;m just saying don&#039;t believe the hype - have a good look behind. Don&#039;t get fooled again. Who are you. You better you bet...

Sorry, listening to Roger Daltry. 

That&#039;s all - having travelled the globe I&#039;m particularly proud of the Beeb. Having worked there, I&#039;m particularly proud of the Beeb. It also annoys the living shit out of me, so it&#039;s not as if I&#039;m blinded by the light. 

But what really, really gets my goat is the constant sniping, dressed up as &quot;honest concern for decency&quot; by rival firms who drag our culture and heritage through any kind of swamp as and when it suits them. 

For me, Cbeebies exemplifies the very very best of the BBC. A channel for kids. Not a channel to sell rubbish products to kids. It&#039;s educational, traditional, battles against ignorance, inclusive of all races, all ethnicities, able bodied and disabled, and has a lovely cut off time so my kids know that when I say bed, so does Cbeebies. 

Just for Cbeebies alone, it deserves a bit of leeway when two jokey plonkers make a right pigs ear of things. 

I&#039;m quite partial to Radio 7&#039;s comedy as well. And I&#039;m Sorry I Haven&#039;t a Clue was good. Dad&#039;s Army was where I draw the line though. 

Or we can have Iain Dale on internet TV, 24 - the 12th series, Gladiators and no sight of the next Bill Hicks on telly ever again. 

Meanwhile - I&#039;m sure The Sun never saw this and never wanted any kind of revenge... http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=999OFGq7WwI

And bears take a toilet roll into the lavvie with them...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No thomas, I&#8217;m just saying don&#8217;t believe the hype &#8211; have a good look behind. Don&#8217;t get fooled again. Who are you. You better you bet&#8230;</p>
<p>Sorry, listening to Roger Daltry. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s all &#8211; having travelled the globe I&#8217;m particularly proud of the Beeb. Having worked there, I&#8217;m particularly proud of the Beeb. It also annoys the living shit out of me, so it&#8217;s not as if I&#8217;m blinded by the light. </p>
<p>But what really, really gets my goat is the constant sniping, dressed up as &#8220;honest concern for decency&#8221; by rival firms who drag our culture and heritage through any kind of swamp as and when it suits them. </p>
<p>For me, Cbeebies exemplifies the very very best of the BBC. A channel for kids. Not a channel to sell rubbish products to kids. It&#8217;s educational, traditional, battles against ignorance, inclusive of all races, all ethnicities, able bodied and disabled, and has a lovely cut off time so my kids know that when I say bed, so does Cbeebies. </p>
<p>Just for Cbeebies alone, it deserves a bit of leeway when two jokey plonkers make a right pigs ear of things. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite partial to Radio 7&#8217;s comedy as well. And I&#8217;m Sorry I Haven&#8217;t a Clue was good. Dad&#8217;s Army was where I draw the line though. </p>
<p>Or we can have Iain Dale on internet TV, 24 &#8211; the 12th series, Gladiators and no sight of the next Bill Hicks on telly ever again. </p>
<p>Meanwhile &#8211; I&#8217;m sure The Sun never saw this and never wanted any kind of revenge&#8230; <a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=999OFGq7WwI" rel="nofollow">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=999OFGq7WwI</a></p>
<p>And bears take a toilet roll into the lavvie with them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: septicisle</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23297</link>
		<dc:creator>septicisle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Additionally the Mail&#039;s calling the suspects in the Stephen Lawrence case murderers on the front page most probably ended any chance of them ever facing another trial.  And there are plenty of stories about Dacre only going so big on it after he remembered Lawrence&#039;s father had decorated his home...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Additionally the Mail&#8217;s calling the suspects in the Stephen Lawrence case murderers on the front page most probably ended any chance of them ever facing another trial.  And there are plenty of stories about Dacre only going so big on it after he remembered Lawrence&#8217;s father had decorated his home&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Griffin</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23296</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 18:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No, it was initially, but as the story unfolded and the incompetence of the BBC, who failed to act on their own guidelines and follow proper broadcasting procedures, became evident,&quot;

This never happened, why perpetuate myths?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No, it was initially, but as the story unfolded and the incompetence of the BBC, who failed to act on their own guidelines and follow proper broadcasting procedures, became evident,&#8221;</p>
<p>This never happened, why perpetuate myths?</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23293</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl,
do you mean that we should behave like the Mail and Sun and oppose their existence or that we should highlight their inconsistency and hypocrisy in order to neutralise the false inferences they&#039;re trying to implant in the public mind?

Broadsheet and tabloid sales continue to fall and lose influence because they are more snoozepapers than newspapers. 

This non-story only goes to highlight how  fleet street is no longer setting the agenda and should no longer be pandered to by politicians - the younger generation has passed judgement by giving an overwhelming shrug while the older generation has shown itself incapable of judgement by failing to root out the problem at the heart of the matter.

What is hilarious is that it reaffirms that content is king, or (and this is more to the point) that the vacuum in the heads of opinion formers (performers, journalists, critics, editors and politicians) is the cause of our discontent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl,<br />
do you mean that we should behave like the Mail and Sun and oppose their existence or that we should highlight their inconsistency and hypocrisy in order to neutralise the false inferences they&#8217;re trying to implant in the public mind?</p>
<p>Broadsheet and tabloid sales continue to fall and lose influence because they are more snoozepapers than newspapers. </p>
<p>This non-story only goes to highlight how  fleet street is no longer setting the agenda and should no longer be pandered to by politicians &#8211; the younger generation has passed judgement by giving an overwhelming shrug while the older generation has shown itself incapable of judgement by failing to root out the problem at the heart of the matter.</p>
<p>What is hilarious is that it reaffirms that content is king, or (and this is more to the point) that the vacuum in the heads of opinion formers (performers, journalists, critics, editors and politicians) is the cause of our discontent.</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23291</link>
		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 17:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crush the opposition by any means necessary...indeed.

(Assume you mean the BBC here?!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crush the opposition by any means necessary&#8230;indeed.</p>
<p>(Assume you mean the BBC here?!)</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Heath</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23290</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Carl said.

*sniggers*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Carl said.</p>
<p>*sniggers*</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Eve</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23289</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl Eve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thomas

&quot;Um, isn’t this obsession with the Daily Mail a case of blaming the messenger? &quot;


Ahahahaha, bloody priceless.

The Daily Mail and other crap rags were quite happy to blame the BBC when it&#039;s message was &quot;ooh Tory MP caught wth pants down/snout in trough&quot; claiming it was the left-wing conspiracy. 
Then the Labour MPs were quite happy to blame the BBC when it caught them diddling the reasons for war. 

It appears that blaming the messenger for the likes of the Mail and the Sun is the only thing you can do - WHEN THE BBC IS THE TARGET. 

This is not about the two vulgar &quot;talents&quot;, or Sach, or the TittyGirl, or the licence fee. This is about cold hard business &quot;crush the opposition by any means necessary&quot; dressed up for the likes of Chavscum to believe it&#039;s entirely about the morality of the nation and an intellectual discussion about where our annual subscription to the BBC. 

It&#039;s a magic trick for the gormless - look, look at the naughty corporation - look over here - but look AWAY from what we&#039;re doing so you miss our own appalling behaviour (like not paying corporate taxes, criminalising the entire young of the country, having openly racist and made up negative stories about &#039;lesser&#039; races or segments of society). You want to fall for it, fine. Don&#039;t let me stop you. But like the legendary git wizard David Blaine - if I want to throw eggs at the faking tit, then I and others will because we&#039;re not fooled by the smoke and mirrors act being put in front of us. 

Abracadabra - and here&#039;s Gladiators again for you to drool in front of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thomas</p>
<p>&#8220;Um, isn’t this obsession with the Daily Mail a case of blaming the messenger? &#8221;</p>
<p>Ahahahaha, bloody priceless.</p>
<p>The Daily Mail and other crap rags were quite happy to blame the BBC when it&#8217;s message was &#8220;ooh Tory MP caught wth pants down/snout in trough&#8221; claiming it was the left-wing conspiracy.<br />
Then the Labour MPs were quite happy to blame the BBC when it caught them diddling the reasons for war. </p>
<p>It appears that blaming the messenger for the likes of the Mail and the Sun is the only thing you can do &#8211; WHEN THE BBC IS THE TARGET. </p>
<p>This is not about the two vulgar &#8220;talents&#8221;, or Sach, or the TittyGirl, or the licence fee. This is about cold hard business &#8220;crush the opposition by any means necessary&#8221; dressed up for the likes of Chavscum to believe it&#8217;s entirely about the morality of the nation and an intellectual discussion about where our annual subscription to the BBC. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a magic trick for the gormless &#8211; look, look at the naughty corporation &#8211; look over here &#8211; but look AWAY from what we&#8217;re doing so you miss our own appalling behaviour (like not paying corporate taxes, criminalising the entire young of the country, having openly racist and made up negative stories about &#8216;lesser&#8217; races or segments of society). You want to fall for it, fine. Don&#8217;t let me stop you. But like the legendary git wizard David Blaine &#8211; if I want to throw eggs at the faking tit, then I and others will because we&#8217;re not fooled by the smoke and mirrors act being put in front of us. </p>
<p>Abracadabra &#8211; and here&#8217;s Gladiators again for you to drool in front of.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23288</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, isn&#039;t this obsession with the Daily Mail a case of blaming the messenger? 

So what if they don&#039;t get the message right - it makes them an unreliable messenger, but it doesn&#039;t change the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, isn&#8217;t this obsession with the Daily Mail a case of blaming the messenger? </p>
<p>So what if they don&#8217;t get the message right &#8211; it makes them an unreliable messenger, but it doesn&#8217;t change the story.</p>
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		<title>By: John Band</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/30/blood-on-the-carpet/#comment-23287</link>
		<dc:creator>John Band</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[in fairness, I admit the government doesn&#039;t need much bullying before it overturns fundamental principles of justice]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[in fairness, I admit the government doesn't need much bullying before it overturns fundamental principles of justice]</p>
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