Comments on: Diego Garcia: no return to “torture island” http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/24/diego-garcia-no-return-to-%e2%80%9ctorture-island%e2%80%9d/ creating a new liberal-left force Thu, 11 Mar 2010 05:27:43 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: paul maleski http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/24/diego-garcia-no-return-to-%e2%80%9ctorture-island%e2%80%9d/#comment-24424 paul maleski Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:09:06 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1493#comment-24424 MASS TRESPASS In England trespass is not a criminal offence: yet; but jewish David Miliband and his ilk must realise that under international law: mass trespass, mass expulsion of the indigenous population, mass murder et al . are illegal under any jew free civilized legal system. Chagossians and Palestinians deserve fair treatment and not the hypocritical dictates of the international jew. MASS TRESPASS
In England trespass is not a criminal offence: yet; but jewish David Miliband and his ilk must realise that under international law: mass trespass, mass expulsion of the indigenous population, mass murder et al . are illegal under any jew free civilized legal system. Chagossians and Palestinians deserve fair treatment and not the hypocritical dictates of the international jew.

]]> By: Outside Left http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/24/diego-garcia-no-return-to-%e2%80%9ctorture-island%e2%80%9d/#comment-23006 Outside Left Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:16:55 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1493#comment-23006 Did anyone read the archaic language used by David Miliband's QC, Jonathan Crow, in last week's hearing. Harking back to the days of empire, he dismissed the Chagossians' claim in these words: "They have no property rights on the islands at all. What is being asserted is a right of mass trespass." Mass trespass in their own land. Whatever next? Incidentally, John Pilger's book Freedom Next Time has a chapter devoted to the shocking treatment of the Chagossians and is well worth a read. Did anyone read the archaic language used by David Miliband’s QC, Jonathan Crow, in last week’s hearing. Harking back to the days of empire, he dismissed the Chagossians’ claim in these words: “They have no property rights on the islands at all. What is being asserted is a right of mass trespass.”
Mass trespass in their own land. Whatever next?
Incidentally, John Pilger’s book Freedom Next Time has a chapter devoted to the shocking treatment of the Chagossians and is well worth a read.

]]> By: Diego Garcia: no return to “torture island” | Andy Worthington http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/24/diego-garcia-no-return-to-%e2%80%9ctorture-island%e2%80%9d/#comment-22819 Diego Garcia: no return to “torture island” | Andy Worthington Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:46:50 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1493#comment-22819 [...] As published on Liberal Conspiracy. [...] [...] As published on Liberal Conspiracy. [...]

]]> By: Andy Worthington http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/24/diego-garcia-no-return-to-%e2%80%9ctorture-island%e2%80%9d/#comment-22817 Andy Worthington Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:45:19 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1493#comment-22817 My apologies, Unity. You're right, of course. I was caught up in some kind of nuclear missile time-warp there ... I also appreciate your comment abut the other realpolitik element of the "lease". I found this very well expressed in Mark Curtis' 'Unpeople", in which the post-war "special relationship" often involved the British standing very close to the Americans, whispering advice about how to run a global empire based on their experience, and hoping, of course, to pick up some of the business. My apologies, Unity. You’re right, of course. I was caught up in some kind of nuclear missile time-warp there …
I also appreciate your comment abut the other realpolitik element of the “lease”. I found this very well expressed in Mark Curtis’ ‘Unpeople”, in which the post-war “special relationship” often involved the British standing very close to the Americans, whispering advice about how to run a global empire based on their experience, and hoping, of course, to pick up some of the business.

]]> By: Unity http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/24/diego-garcia-no-return-to-%e2%80%9ctorture-island%e2%80%9d/#comment-22814 Unity Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:12:26 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1493#comment-22814 <i>The deal had two crucial components: one was a sizeable discount on Trident, Britain’s nuclear missile programme</i> A slight correction, Andy - its was on the Polaris system that we got the discount. Trident came later although I dare say we'll be getting a discount on the next generation of nukes in return for extending the lease. The other realpoltik element of the deal was that we could no longer afford to sustain a large scale naval presence in the Indian Ocean, hence we passed that on to the US, The deal had two crucial components: one was a sizeable discount on Trident, Britain’s nuclear missile programme

A slight correction, Andy – its was on the Polaris system that we got the discount.

Trident came later although I dare say we’ll be getting a discount on the next generation of nukes in return for extending the lease.

The other realpoltik element of the deal was that we could no longer afford to sustain a large scale naval presence in the Indian Ocean, hence we passed that on to the US,

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