Comments on: British Women (and Men) – Your Help Needed Now http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/09/british-women-and-men-your-help-needed-now/ creating a new liberal-left force Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:10:15 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: sally http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/09/british-women-and-men-your-help-needed-now/#comment-22283 sally Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:10:31 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1417#comment-22283 The abortion debate is a con. It is not abortion these people hate, but SEX. They hate the idea of people having sex out side of marriage . The anti abortion movement in the US will tell you that abortion is just the start. Once they get that banned, then, they want contreception banned. Why do you think they have started these movements of fathers who want their daughters to stay virgins until marriage? Making the pledge to stay pure. Becuase of sex. It's all about sex with these people. They are obsessed with it. The abortion debate is a con. It is not abortion these people hate, but SEX. They hate the idea of people having sex out side of marriage . The anti abortion movement in the US will tell you that abortion is just the start. Once they get that banned, then, they want contreception banned.

Why do you think they have started these movements of fathers who want their daughters to stay virgins until marriage? Making the pledge to stay pure. Becuase of sex.

It’s all about sex with these people. They are obsessed with it.

]]> By: Akela http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/09/british-women-and-men-your-help-needed-now/#comment-22273 Akela Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:06:55 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1417#comment-22273 What I find bizzare are the thoughts that go through the heads of the judges involved in these cases. Imagine you are a crown court judge sentencing a woman for seeking an abortion in Northern Ireland, a part of the UK, knowing that a woman 40 miles across the water in Scotland, another part of the UK, would be doing absolutely nothing wrong. If the government really did cut a deal over abortion with Unionists to force through the 42 day motion then I do wonder if there are any levels the government wont stoop to. What I find bizzare are the thoughts that go through the heads of the judges involved in these cases. Imagine you are a crown court judge sentencing a woman for seeking an abortion in Northern Ireland, a part of the UK, knowing that a woman 40 miles across the water in Scotland, another part of the UK, would be doing absolutely nothing wrong.

If the government really did cut a deal over abortion with Unionists to force through the 42 day motion then I do wonder if there are any levels the government wont stoop to.

]]> By: Unity http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/09/british-women-and-men-your-help-needed-now/#comment-22264 Unity Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:01:32 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1417#comment-22264 Gina: Thanks - that's the Irish Republic not Northern Ireland but it does exemplify the bizarre lengths that anti-abortionists will go to in order to force their agenda on others, but at least the Irish Supreme Court can to the right decision in the end... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6639673.stm Gina:

Thanks – that’s the Irish Republic not Northern Ireland but it does exemplify the bizarre lengths that anti-abortionists will go to in order to force their agenda on others, but at least the Irish Supreme Court can to the right decision in the end…

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6639673.stm

]]> By: gina http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/09/british-women-and-men-your-help-needed-now/#comment-22261 gina Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:22:20 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1417#comment-22261 Unity: http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2007/05/03/irish_teen_asks_judge_to_allow_abortion/ And it infuriates me too. They were going to defend a fetus that would be born, gurgle for a few minutes and then die. Anyone who can't see how insane that is needs carting off to the asylum. Unity:

http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2007/05/03/irish_teen_asks_judge_to_allow_abortion/

And it infuriates me too. They were going to defend a fetus that would be born, gurgle for a few minutes and then die.

Anyone who can’t see how insane that is needs carting off to the asylum.

]]> By: Unity http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/09/british-women-and-men-your-help-needed-now/#comment-22259 Unity Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:06:46 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1417#comment-22259 <i>and that they even assigned a *lawyer* to the fetus at one point makes me want to punch things</i> Sorry? They did what...? That's not only perverse but ultra vires. A foetus is not a person in law and has no right to legal representation, which make that an abuse of due process. and that they even assigned a *lawyer* to the fetus at one point makes me want to punch things

Sorry? They did what…?

That’s not only perverse but ultra vires.

A foetus is not a person in law and has no right to legal representation, which make that an abuse of due process.

]]> By: gina http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/09/british-women-and-men-your-help-needed-now/#comment-22256 gina Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:16:28 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1417#comment-22256 If the case in question was the fetus that was to be born without a brain, I think eventually they did let the girl leave the country and have an abortion, but the fact that she had to fight for it, and that they even assigned a *lawyer* to the fetus at one point makes me want to punch things. They would have made her have that baby only to watch it die. That is abuse, any way you slice it. If the case in question was the fetus that was to be born without a brain, I think eventually they did let the girl leave the country and have an abortion, but the fact that she had to fight for it, and that they even assigned a *lawyer* to the fetus at one point makes me want to punch things.

They would have made her have that baby only to watch it die. That is abuse, any way you slice it.

]]> By: ukliberty http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/09/british-women-and-men-your-help-needed-now/#comment-22255 ukliberty Thu, 09 Oct 2008 11:01:59 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1417#comment-22255 <blockquote>She had been told by doctors months earlier that the child she was carrying was so seriously disabled that there was no way it would survive at all after birth. But since it wasn’t putting her life at risk she was not allowed an abortion and was being forced to carry the dying foetus to full term.</blockquote>How twisted are their 'morals' to make the mother suffer so?

She had been told by doctors months earlier that the child she was carrying was so seriously disabled that there was no way it would survive at all after birth. But since it wasn’t putting her life at risk she was not allowed an abortion and was being forced to carry the dying foetus to full term.

How twisted are their ‘morals’ to make the mother suffer so?

]]> By: Jennie Rigg http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/09/british-women-and-men-your-help-needed-now/#comment-22253 Jennie Rigg Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:33:31 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1417#comment-22253 Great post, Kate, thanks. Great post, Kate, thanks.

]]> By: Matthew Somerville http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/10/09/british-women-and-men-your-help-needed-now/#comment-79481 Matthew Somerville Thu, 09 Oct 2008 08:56:23 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1417#comment-79481 <span class="topsy_trackback_comment"><span class="topsy_twitter_username"><span class="topsy_trackback_content">Go on, ask your MP to vote to extend the abortion act to cover Northern Ireland: http://tinyurl.com/4sjtg5</span></span> Go on, ask your MP to vote to extend the abortion act to cover Northern Ireland: http://tinyurl.com/4sjtg5

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