Comments on: Osborne’s failed attempt to woo lefties http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/21/osbornes-failed-attempt-to-woo-lefties/ creating a new liberal-left force Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:05:02 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: maria http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/21/osbornes-failed-attempt-to-woo-lefties/#comment-19127 maria Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:20:53 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1144#comment-19127 We at Community Care, the leading social care magazine, wonder where the detail of the Tory the rhetoric is. Is there really anything particularly new in what they are saying? We doubt it! Have a listen to our podcast http://www.communitycare.co.uk/Articles/2008/08/22/109192/podcast-are-the-conservatives-really-the-new-party-of-social.html We at Community Care, the leading social care magazine, wonder where the detail of the Tory the rhetoric is. Is there really anything particularly new in what they are saying? We doubt it!

Have a listen to our podcast http://www.communitycare.co.uk/Articles/2008/08/22/109192/podcast-are-the-conservatives-really-the-new-party-of-social.html

]]> By: Yoko Oyes http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/21/osbornes-failed-attempt-to-woo-lefties/#comment-19106 Yoko Oyes Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:02:21 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1144#comment-19106 Taxes have gone up on the rich. Look at stealth taxes. Taxes have gone up on the rich. Look at stealth taxes.

]]> By: septicisle http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/21/osbornes-failed-attempt-to-woo-lefties/#comment-19084 septicisle Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:14:34 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1144#comment-19084 LfaT: Really? Why then did Osborne choose to write this article for the Guardian, when about 80% of its readers either vote Labour or Liberal? He's not confronting the nay-sayers on the right by doing it in the Telegraph, he's instead attempting to appeal to the left, while failing miserably I might add. If that is kite-flying, I don't know what is. That the election is two years away is no excuse for such weak posturing. The naivety here seems to be that you actually believe that Osborne means it. LfaT: Really? Why then did Osborne choose to write this article for the Guardian, when about 80% of its readers either vote Labour or Liberal? He’s not confronting the nay-sayers on the right by doing it in the Telegraph, he’s instead attempting to appeal to the left, while failing miserably I might add. If that is kite-flying, I don’t know what is.

That the election is two years away is no excuse for such weak posturing. The naivety here seems to be that you actually believe that Osborne means it.

]]> By: thomas http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/21/osbornes-failed-attempt-to-woo-lefties/#comment-19076 thomas Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:16:03 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1144#comment-19076 Sunny@5 Really? How much do London-based international hedge fund managers earn now in comparison to then? About 1500% more, that's how much. The minimum wage might have done something to alter the balance, but it hasn't done that much! Sunny@5

Really? How much do London-based international hedge fund managers earn now in comparison to then? About 1500% more, that’s how much.

The minimum wage might have done something to alter the balance, but it hasn’t done that much!

]]> By: Lee Griffin http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/21/osbornes-failed-attempt-to-woo-lefties/#comment-19075 Lee Griffin Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:13:53 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1144#comment-19075 Would the Tories have done worse than change the tax system so that the poorest in society were paying more in tax while the more well off were paying less? Would the Tories have done worse than change the tax system so that the poorest in society were paying more in tax while the more well off were paying less?

]]> By: Henry http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/21/osbornes-failed-attempt-to-woo-lefties/#comment-19073 Henry Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:58:29 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1144#comment-19073 I was in the US before the 2000 election & we heard a lot of nonsense about 'compassionate conservatism' etc from the Bushies. We all know what happened after Dubya was elected. Presumably articles like Osborne's are intended to soften up lefties so many will argue (as some Democrats did) that there is no real difference between the two main parties & that it doesn't matter if Labour is defeated. I hope not too many people are daft enough to fall for this. I was in the US before the 2000 election & we heard a lot of nonsense about ‘compassionate conservatism’ etc from the Bushies. We all know what happened after Dubya was elected.

Presumably articles like Osborne’s are intended to soften up lefties so many will argue (as some Democrats did) that there is no real difference between the two main parties & that it doesn’t matter if Labour is defeated.

I hope not too many people are daft enough to fall for this.

]]> By: Sunny Hundal http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/21/osbornes-failed-attempt-to-woo-lefties/#comment-19066 Sunny Hundal Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:42:28 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1144#comment-19066 <i>Labour have created the biggest gap between rich and poor that this country has ever seen. Labour have failed to improve social mobility.</i> LFaT - You say this without irony, which is really amusing. What about the fact that the Tories were much worse before 1997? That fact seems to have been conveniently forgotten. Why should we take these attempts at triangulation seriously? Labour have created the biggest gap between rich and poor that this country has ever seen. Labour have failed to improve social mobility.

LFaT – You say this without irony, which is really amusing. What about the fact that the Tories were much worse before 1997? That fact seems to have been conveniently forgotten. Why should we take these attempts at triangulation seriously?

]]> By: Dirty Euro http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/21/osbornes-failed-attempt-to-woo-lefties/#comment-19050 Dirty Euro Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:00:36 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1144#comment-19050 The tories just want to make the poor poorer and the richer the disabled pensioners, and the weak suffer under their government. Osbourne was lucky he will inherit more money than a small african nation. That is just luck, not hard work. Thatcher and reagain led to a real massive decline in real living standard of the working classes another tory term would have the same affect. This is just mad tory extremism, of making life tougher for the poor, from people whio have were lucky to be born to wealth. The tories just want to make the poor poorer and the richer the disabled pensioners, and the weak suffer under their government. Osbourne was lucky he will inherit more money than a small african nation. That is just luck, not hard work.
Thatcher and reagain led to a real massive decline in real living standard of the working classes another tory term would have the same affect. This is just mad tory extremism, of making life tougher for the poor, from people whio have were lucky to be born to wealth.

]]> By: Dirty Euro http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/21/osbornes-failed-attempt-to-woo-lefties/#comment-19048 Dirty Euro Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:53:23 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1144#comment-19048 Osbounre has more money than a small afrcian nation. These tories are just the same old punish the poor tories he talks about how we need to reweard people for work. Well he did not make his money by work he inherited it. Where is fairness in that. He was just lucky. People are not being punished for work anyway it is just naive drivel. Osbounre has more money than a small afrcian nation.
These tories are just the same old punish the poor tories he talks about how we need to reweard people for work. Well he did not make his money by work he inherited it. Where is fairness in that. He was just lucky. People are not being punished for work anyway it is just naive drivel.

]]> By: Ben G http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/21/osbornes-failed-attempt-to-woo-lefties/#comment-19047 Ben G Thu, 21 Aug 2008 10:36:18 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1144#comment-19047 Hmmmmm, just watch that gap between the rich and poor close right up after a few years of the coming Tory government. Just watch that social mobility increase. I really can't wait for the new caring Conservativism. I would say any floating "liberal progressive" thick enough to genuinely believe that deserves everything they get -except of course, they won't be the ones who'll be suffering. Hmmmmm, just watch that gap between the rich and poor close right up after a few years of the coming Tory government. Just watch that social mobility increase. I really can’t wait for the new caring Conservativism.

I would say any floating “liberal progressive” thick enough to genuinely believe that deserves everything they get -except of course, they won’t be the ones who’ll be suffering.

]]> By: Letters From A Tory http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/21/osbornes-failed-attempt-to-woo-lefties/#comment-19043 Letters From A Tory Thu, 21 Aug 2008 09:13:31 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1144#comment-19043 What a naive article. Talking about social justice, fairness and equality is not 'kite flying' - it's called being aware of the state of this country. Labour have created the biggest gap between rich and poor that this country has ever seen. Labour have failed to improve social mobility. Labour are producing hundreds of thousands of school leavers who cannot read or write, denying them even a basic level of education. George Osborne, and the indeed the rest of the Conservative Party know that the voters are concerned about this. It's so boring listening to you say that the Conservatives haven't got any policies on this, almost two years before an election. No-one in their right mind would release all their policies so far ahead of time. This article was not intended to solve the country's problems, but it was intended to highlight Labour's failures - and that it did. http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com What a naive article. Talking about social justice, fairness and equality is not ‘kite flying’ – it’s called being aware of the state of this country. Labour have created the biggest gap between rich and poor that this country has ever seen. Labour have failed to improve social mobility. Labour are producing hundreds of thousands of school leavers who cannot read or write, denying them even a basic level of education.

George Osborne, and the indeed the rest of the Conservative Party know that the voters are concerned about this. It’s so boring listening to you say that the Conservatives haven’t got any policies on this, almost two years before an election. No-one in their right mind would release all their policies so far ahead of time. This article was not intended to solve the country’s problems, but it was intended to highlight Labour’s failures – and that it did.

http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com

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