Comments on: Boris: Dave’s broken society “piffle” http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/ Left-wing news, opinion and activism Thu, 24 May 2012 03:27:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dirty Euro http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-19051 Dirty Euro Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:01:06 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-19051 Boris is weak he is tory hq;s poodle. Boris is weak he is tory hq;s poodle.

]]> By: Adam Bienkov http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-18991 Adam Bienkov Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:36:23 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-18991 Boris has backtracked now: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7572310.stm Who would have seen that coming? Boris has backtracked now:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7572310.stm

Who would have seen that coming?

]]> By: Dirty Euro http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-18971 Dirty Euro Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:17:33 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-18971 Broken society yeah like that tory leader's buddy who left his wife for another man LOL. Broken society yeah like that tory leader’s buddy who left his wife for another man LOL.

]]> By: Dave Cole http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-18958 Dave Cole Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:51:54 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-18958 Indeed, I do agree with Boris rather than Dave on this one. However, perception, as ever, is they key; I wonder if, in this respect, London is somehow 'other' and that the two statements can be perceived to be true by the relevant constituencies at the same time. Indeed, I do agree with Boris rather than Dave on this one. However, perception, as ever, is they key; I wonder if, in this respect, London is somehow ‘other’ and that the two statements can be perceived to be true by the relevant constituencies at the same time.

]]> By: Adam Bienkov http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-18930 Adam Bienkov Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:38:31 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-18930 GIve me Boris's gaffe-prone waywardness above Cameron's soulless neo-Conservatism any day. I mean he may be a moron, but at least he's our moron. GIve me Boris’s gaffe-prone waywardness above Cameron’s soulless neo-Conservatism any day.

I mean he may be a moron, but at least he’s our moron.

]]> By: Tom http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-18927 Tom Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:05:21 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-18927 He certainly sounds happier when praising Britain's hard-working young athletes or announcing that putting public investment into the infrastructure of deprived areas cuts crime than explaining how his administration is structured this week. Perhaps inside every crusty Telegraph-reading right-wing old Etonian there's a touchy feely social democrat desperate to get out? In truth, it seems it's not Cameron but Francis Maude who's the senior Tory we need to finger* as being behind this. Boles is getting the blame, but Maude links the Parker and Lewis cases even more closely to a particular wing of the Conservative Party, rather than just Policy Exchange, much as they'd love us to blame PX for the mess. * apologies for the mental image... He certainly sounds happier when praising Britain’s hard-working young athletes or announcing that putting public investment into the infrastructure of deprived areas cuts crime than explaining how his administration is structured this week. Perhaps inside every crusty Telegraph-reading right-wing old Etonian there’s a touchy feely social democrat desperate to get out?

In truth, it seems it’s not Cameron but Francis Maude who’s the senior Tory we need to finger* as being behind this. Boles is getting the blame, but Maude links the Parker and Lewis cases even more closely to a particular wing of the Conservative Party, rather than just Policy Exchange, much as they’d love us to blame PX for the mess.

* apologies for the mental image…

]]> By: Mr. Stop Boris http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-18925 Mr. Stop Boris Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:43:00 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-18925 I have to agree with Tom on this. It's nice to see the Tories in disarray but Boris is surely on the 'correct' side in this one. And I don't think anyone* called it a gaffe when, say, Ken Livingstone accused Tony Blair of waging an illegal war in Iraq at every opportunity ;) It seems (as Tom suggests) that an awful lot of the genuine gaffes in Boris's administration actually have their roots in Cameron, Cameron's clique and their 'barmy' Policy Exchange chums. Obviously I don't hold out much hope for Boris making a good job of Mayor whatever happens, but I can't help thinking there's at least a slender chance he'd make a slightly *better* job of it if he didn't have so much central interference. Or he might just not get anything done at all, of course. * anyone who was opposed to the war, at any rate I have to agree with Tom on this. It’s nice to see the Tories in disarray but Boris is surely on the ‘correct’ side in this one. And I don’t think anyone* called it a gaffe when, say, Ken Livingstone accused Tony Blair of waging an illegal war in Iraq at every opportunity ;)

It seems (as Tom suggests) that an awful lot of the genuine gaffes in Boris’s administration actually have their roots in Cameron, Cameron’s clique and their ‘barmy’ Policy Exchange chums. Obviously I don’t hold out much hope for Boris making a good job of Mayor whatever happens, but I can’t help thinking there’s at least a slender chance he’d make a slightly *better* job of it if he didn’t have so much central interference. Or he might just not get anything done at all, of course.

* anyone who was opposed to the war, at any rate

]]> By: Tom http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-18921 Tom Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:30:01 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-18921 I hesitate to call it a gaffe, because it's a good deal more sensible than the stuff Boris comes out with when he actually remembers his lines and what party he's meant to be in. More importantly I got the impression that he actually does believe this. Much more please, and hopefully the rest of the Policy Exchange reptiles will push off in disgust and we can get things moving again. It's a gaffe from Cameron's point of view, but Cameron's point of view is PR fluff and bollocks, so who cares? I hesitate to call it a gaffe, because it’s a good deal more sensible than the stuff Boris comes out with when he actually remembers his lines and what party he’s meant to be in. More importantly I got the impression that he actually does believe this. Much more please, and hopefully the rest of the Policy Exchange reptiles will push off in disgust and we can get things moving again.

It’s a gaffe from Cameron’s point of view, but Cameron’s point of view is PR fluff and bollocks, so who cares?

]]> By: Evening roundup, 19th August 2008 : Labour Outlook http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-18917 Evening roundup, 19th August 2008 : Labour Outlook Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:03:22 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-18917 [...] their front door was an excellent way to prove how on-message he is. Jolly larks, what what! The Liberal Conspiracy and Tom Watson have [...] [...] their front door was an excellent way to prove how on-message he is. Jolly larks, what what! The Liberal Conspiracy and Tom Watson have [...]

]]> By: Lee Griffin http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-18910 Lee Griffin Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:26:03 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-18910 London Mayor praising GB athletes, and showing how everything isn't terrible...gaffe? London Mayor praising GB athletes, and showing how everything isn’t terrible…gaffe?

]]> By: TheGreenTop http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-18908 TheGreenTop Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:06:19 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-18908 Looks like BoJo has finally stepped out of his deputies' shadows and started to make some of his own gaffes. Looks like BoJo has finally stepped out of his deputies’ shadows and started to make some of his own gaffes.

]]> By: Jennie Rigg http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-18905 Jennie Rigg Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:44:02 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-18905 I already HAVE crazy hair! Result! I already HAVE crazy hair! Result!

]]> By: Sunny Hundal http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-18899 Sunny Hundal Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:47:05 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-18899 The Spectator... The Spectator…

]]> By: Lee Griffin http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-18898 Lee Griffin Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:37:10 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-18898 He says what I'm thinking, I need crazier hair. He says what I’m thinking, I need crazier hair.

]]> By: Andrew http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/08/19/boris-camerons-broken-society-piffle/#comment-18897 Andrew Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:33:53 +0000 http://www.liberalconspiracy.org/?p=1137#comment-18897 Can anyone remind me which magazine Boris used to edit, and what its line was on this? Can anyone remind me which magazine Boris used to edit, and what its line was on this?

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