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	<title>Comments on: Not supporting Iain Dale&#8217;s top blogs competition</title>
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		<title>By: Quaequam Blog! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My top ten political blogs</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-18052</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaequam Blog! &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My top ten political blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] top ten political blogs as part of Iain Dale&#8217;s annual bout of self publicity round up. Unlike others, I won&#8217;t be partaking in any &#8220;boycott.&#8221; Sure, the fact that it is edited by Iain [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] top ten political blogs as part of Iain Dale&#8217;s annual bout of self publicity round up. Unlike others, I won&#8217;t be partaking in any &#8220;boycott.&#8221; Sure, the fact that it is edited by Iain [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Why Labour blogs should take part in Iain Dale&#8217;s blog vote : labouroutlook.com</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17922</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Labour blogs should take part in Iain Dale&#8217;s blog vote : labouroutlook.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 10:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] some have their misgivings, all Labour blogs should be take part this year as it&#8217;s an excellent [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Clive Summerfield</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17463</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive Summerfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re 76.

Unfortunately John, the prize would have to be split so many ways that if it were one of Iain&#039;s books, we&#039;d be lucky to get a paragraph each.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re 76.</p>
<p>Unfortunately John, the prize would have to be split so many ways that if it were one of Iain&#8217;s books, we&#8217;d be lucky to get a paragraph each.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17445</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys, my blog has now been added to the list at Total Politics. If anyone here is voting and has a spare slot, I&#039;d love your votes! Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, my blog has now been added to the list at Total Politics. If anyone here is voting and has a spare slot, I&#8217;d love your votes! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: jailhouselawyer</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17439</link>
		<dc:creator>jailhouselawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can those of us who have the distinction of being banned by Iain Dale&#039;s Diary have an award?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can those of us who have the distinction of being banned by Iain Dale&#8217;s Diary have an award?</p>
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		<title>By: riggall</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17438</link>
		<dc:creator>riggall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve continued my journey through this dreadful world.... oh my god I have no confidence left in the human race - finding posts bragging about visitor numbers, noticing all the adverts these people take. And Iain dale accuses other blogs of &quot;not being innovative&quot; (acc. to Alix)? So, writing in a traditional style and taking ad money and generally looking like a goddamn Daily Mail opinion column is innovative? (insert italics where appropriate)
Jesus Christ, we really are all going to hell in a hand cart if these &quot;top blogs&quot; are what constitutes good writing.
Personally, I&#039;d have them all taken out and shot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve continued my journey through this dreadful world&#8230;. oh my god I have no confidence left in the human race &#8211; finding posts bragging about visitor numbers, noticing all the adverts these people take. And Iain dale accuses other blogs of &#8220;not being innovative&#8221; (acc. to Alix)? So, writing in a traditional style and taking ad money and generally looking like a goddamn Daily Mail opinion column is innovative? (insert italics where appropriate)<br />
Jesus Christ, we really are all going to hell in a hand cart if these &#8220;top blogs&#8221; are what constitutes good writing.<br />
Personally, I&#8217;d have them all taken out and shot.</p>
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		<title>By: riggall</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17432</link>
		<dc:creator>riggall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, for the first time today I heard about this list, Iain Dale&#039;s blog, and a load of other blogs I&#039;d never heard about either. And I won&#039;t be reading them again.
What is the point of blogs that are basically sub-standard newpaper columns? I thought blogging was supposed to offer something different, but the &quot;top political blogs&quot; are boorish drivel. I can see that from readership levels people in general disagree, but people in general like Coldplay and believe things like &quot;knife epidemic AAAARRGGHH!!!&quot;, so I can&#039;t say the numbers convince me these sites are any good.
Thankyou (incidentally, this site&#039;s not too bad...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, for the first time today I heard about this list, Iain Dale&#8217;s blog, and a load of other blogs I&#8217;d never heard about either. And I won&#8217;t be reading them again.<br />
What is the point of blogs that are basically sub-standard newpaper columns? I thought blogging was supposed to offer something different, but the &#8220;top political blogs&#8221; are boorish drivel. I can see that from readership levels people in general disagree, but people in general like Coldplay and believe things like &#8220;knife epidemic AAAARRGGHH!!!&#8221;, so I can&#8217;t say the numbers convince me these sites are any good.<br />
Thankyou (incidentally, this site&#8217;s not too bad&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Iain Dale</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17419</link>
		<dc:creator>Iain Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom p

This section is headed MEMORABLE SPEECHES. Are you saying those three aren&#039;t memorable? You also omit to point out that the other four speeches in the section are by JFK, Martin Luther King, FDR and Lincoln. 

The whole database is very much work in progress.

Do try taking your blinkers off. It is meant to be a valuable resource for people of all political persuasions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom p</p>
<p>This section is headed MEMORABLE SPEECHES. Are you saying those three aren&#8217;t memorable? You also omit to point out that the other four speeches in the section are by JFK, Martin Luther King, FDR and Lincoln. </p>
<p>The whole database is very much work in progress.</p>
<p>Do try taking your blinkers off. It is meant to be a valuable resource for people of all political persuasions.</p>
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		<title>By: tom p</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17409</link>
		<dc:creator>tom p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jo-Christie Smith,

If Total Politics is non-partisan, then how come it reckons that the best 3 political speeches of all time were 2 by Regan and Powell&#039;s rivers of blood?

Dale is not in any way impartial and seems incapable of being so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jo-Christie Smith,</p>
<p>If Total Politics is non-partisan, then how come it reckons that the best 3 political speeches of all time were 2 by Regan and Powell&#8217;s rivers of blood?</p>
<p>Dale is not in any way impartial and seems incapable of being so.</p>
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		<title>By: Ministry of Truth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iain&#8217;s Annual Blog Guide.</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17339</link>
		<dc:creator>Ministry of Truth &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Iain&#8217;s Annual Blog Guide.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] year&#8217;s voting round has got off to something of a controversial start with Bob Piper and Liberal Conspiracy both announcing that they won&#8217;t be taking part - and as for me, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] year&#8217;s voting round has got off to something of a controversial start with Bob Piper and Liberal Conspiracy both announcing that they won&#8217;t be taking part &#8211; and as for me, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tory Dipper</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17325</link>
		<dc:creator>Tory Dipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another good reason not to award Dale the BlogDaddy title. APCO. They have a track record of setting up a &quot;network of fake citizens&#039; groups&quot; for the likes of Exxon and Philip Morris, and lo and behold they turn up as the sponsors of Dale&#039;s list. Someone with big money wants to influence public opinion, and times have moved on from the &quot;citizen&#039;s group&quot;, fake or otherwise. Who would you turn to? The &quot;blogging community&quot; just happens to be the modern day manifestation. 

Dale even has the requisite climate change deniers viewpoint, the sort that APCO have a history of throwing good money at for their climate wrecking and health wrecking clients.

http://www.truthout.org/article/george-monbiot-the-denial-industry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another good reason not to award Dale the BlogDaddy title. APCO. They have a track record of setting up a &#8220;network of fake citizens&#8217; groups&#8221; for the likes of Exxon and Philip Morris, and lo and behold they turn up as the sponsors of Dale&#8217;s list. Someone with big money wants to influence public opinion, and times have moved on from the &#8220;citizen&#8217;s group&#8221;, fake or otherwise. Who would you turn to? The &#8220;blogging community&#8221; just happens to be the modern day manifestation. </p>
<p>Dale even has the requisite climate change deniers viewpoint, the sort that APCO have a history of throwing good money at for their climate wrecking and health wrecking clients.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.truthout.org/article/george-monbiot-the-denial-industry" rel="nofollow">http://www.truthout.org/article/george-monbiot-the-denial-industry</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17324</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 22:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. that&#039;s funny rumbold...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. that&#8217;s funny rumbold&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17317</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite Total Politics publishing his Guide, there&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Guide+to+Political+Blogging+in+the+UK%22&amp;mailListSubmit=Google+search&amp;sitesearch=totalpolitics.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;no mention of it on the magazine&#039;s website&lt;/a&gt;. In the meantime, launching the poll from his own blog has generated Iain 45 inbound links (&lt;a href=&quot;http://technorati.com/search/http%3A//iaindale.blogspot.com/2008/07/guide-to-political-blogs-2008-9-vote.html?sub=toolsearch&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;according to Technorati&lt;/a&gt;) and no doubt thousands of extra visits to help with his ad revenue. You have to admire the brass neck of the man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite Total Politics publishing his Guide, there&#8217;s <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Guide+to+Political+Blogging+in+the+UK%22&amp;mailListSubmit=Google+search&amp;sitesearch=totalpolitics.com" rel="nofollow">no mention of it on the magazine&#8217;s website</a>. In the meantime, launching the poll from his own blog has generated Iain 45 inbound links (<a href="http://technorati.com/search/http%3A//iaindale.blogspot.com/2008/07/guide-to-political-blogs-2008-9-vote.html?sub=toolsearch" rel="nofollow">according to Technorati</a>) and no doubt thousands of extra visits to help with his ad revenue. You have to admire the brass neck of the man.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17314</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 20:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jennie- Did someone else say that?

Heh BenSix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennie- Did someone else say that?</p>
<p>Heh BenSix.</p>
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		<title>By: BenSix</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17313</link>
		<dc:creator>BenSix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“How many Liberal Conspiracy readers does it take to change a light bulb?”&quot;

They won&#039;t - they&#039;re always in the dark*.

* Only snickering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“How many Liberal Conspiracy readers does it take to change a light bulb?”&#8221;</p>
<p>They won&#8217;t &#8211; they&#8217;re always in the dark*.</p>
<p>* Only snickering.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennie Rigg</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17312</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennie Rigg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By &#039;eck, Rumbold, that&#039;s some amazing copy/pasting skills you have there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By &#8216;eck, Rumbold, that&#8217;s some amazing copy/pasting skills you have there.</p>
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		<title>By: Rumbold</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17311</link>
		<dc:creator>Rumbold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 19:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;How many Liberal Conspiracy readers does it take to change a light bulb?&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Leon is right to say 1000, but wrong about their division of labour:

200 left wing bloggers to set up a Light Bulb-Changing Committee (LBCC) to assess the scope of light bulb-changing activities, and the various sub-committees to monitor whether or not diversity targets and other relevant legislation is being complied with. 

50 for an independent LBC appeals panel (OffBulb), in case anyone disagrees with the LBCC’s decision.

10 needed to become full-time trade union officials, to ensure that LBCC employees are properly represented.

50 bloggers must make up the External Representation Committee (ERC), which liaises with other departments and represents the LBCC at EU and UN levels.

100 will become revenue officers, who are tasked with taxing the local population to provide this vital service. Non-payment of the light bulb tax is a criminal offence.

20 bloggers to form the environmental sub-group in order to ensure that the light bulbs are environmentally friendly. This will be achieved by going on a fact-finding mission to the Bahamas.

400 administrators are necessary, in order to administer the other administrators.

The remaining 170 bloggers will sit around complaining about how Iain Dale and Guido Fawkes think that they are the only ones who can change light bulbs, and how the left can change light bulbs just as well, if only they wanted to. At this juncture, someone will point out that the only reason Conservative Home has bloggers who can change light bulbs is because the site is externally funded. 

The light bulb will remain unchanged.</description>
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<p>Leon is right to say 1000, but wrong about their division of labour:</p>
<p>200 left wing bloggers to set up a Light Bulb-Changing Committee (LBCC) to assess the scope of light bulb-changing activities, and the various sub-committees to monitor whether or not diversity targets and other relevant legislation is being complied with. </p>
<p>50 for an independent LBC appeals panel (OffBulb), in case anyone disagrees with the LBCC’s decision.</p>
<p>10 needed to become full-time trade union officials, to ensure that LBCC employees are properly represented.</p>
<p>50 bloggers must make up the External Representation Committee (ERC), which liaises with other departments and represents the LBCC at EU and UN levels.</p>
<p>100 will become revenue officers, who are tasked with taxing the local population to provide this vital service. Non-payment of the light bulb tax is a criminal offence.</p>
<p>20 bloggers to form the environmental sub-group in order to ensure that the light bulbs are environmentally friendly. This will be achieved by going on a fact-finding mission to the Bahamas.</p>
<p>400 administrators are necessary, in order to administer the other administrators.</p>
<p>The remaining 170 bloggers will sit around complaining about how Iain Dale and Guido Fawkes think that they are the only ones who can change light bulbs, and how the left can change light bulbs just as well, if only they wanted to. At this juncture, someone will point out that the only reason Conservative Home has bloggers who can change light bulbs is because the site is externally funded. </p>
<p>The light bulb will remain unchanged.</p>
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		<title>By: Alix</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17295</link>
		<dc:creator>Alix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:26:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, a good example of the mindset of the ID/MSM nexus is found in what Chris Paul says @52 (always a pleasure to come across you in non-insane-Lib-Dem-bashing mode ;-D ). Left-wing blogging alone encompasses whole worlds of generally left-leaning people who hardly ever so much as mention the word Westminster, but because the right-wing blogosphere is quite Westminster-centric, a right-wing blogger will always look to the specifically &quot;Labour&quot; bits of the blogosphere for their left-wing reading.

And of course, the right-wing blogosphere being Westminster-centric is another thing that endears it to the MSM. Basically, you could say the MSM&#039;s take is &quot;Hey! These bloggers write about the same stuff we do! They must be the really important bloggers.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, a good example of the mindset of the ID/MSM nexus is found in what Chris Paul says @52 (always a pleasure to come across you in non-insane-Lib-Dem-bashing mode ;-D ). Left-wing blogging alone encompasses whole worlds of generally left-leaning people who hardly ever so much as mention the word Westminster, but because the right-wing blogosphere is quite Westminster-centric, a right-wing blogger will always look to the specifically &#8220;Labour&#8221; bits of the blogosphere for their left-wing reading.</p>
<p>And of course, the right-wing blogosphere being Westminster-centric is another thing that endears it to the MSM. Basically, you could say the MSM&#8217;s take is &#8220;Hey! These bloggers write about the same stuff we do! They must be the really important bloggers.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alix</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17293</link>
		<dc:creator>Alix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it helps to remember why ID is doing this. As someone else has said, he is positioning himself as the emissary between blogosphere and mainstream media. The reason this is working very well is that he has similar tastes to people in the mainstream media - who are delighted when he confirms their existing view of blogging.

I read an interesting interview with him a little while ago, can&#039;t remember what paper I&#039;m afraid. In it he said left-wing (I think; it may have been broader than that) blogs weren&#039;t moving on or being innovative, and suggested that much of the blogging in the MSM is now as good as a lot of political blogging. These are both opinions, and I for one would differ from both of them.* But the fact that they are shared opinions between ID and the MSM means they come to accept them as a sort of truth.

So the 100 best political blah just continues this confirmation process. The MSM aren&#039;t interested in indie stuff (broadly conceived) in the first place, so it&#039;s not like we&#039;re missing out on a window of opportunity to get left-lib blogs more widely read as a result of ID&#039;s views. The window was never open, never will be. I&#039;ll submit nominations just because it&#039;s a fun and neighbourly thing to do. I textvote in Strictly Come Dancing as well sometimes; doesn&#039;t mean I give a toss.

*(because (1) I couldn&#039;t give a toss who embeds/polls/liveblogs, I just want to read good, thoughtful, liberal writing, and frankly I&#039;d be just as happy with a pencil and paper if it was as easily transmittable; (2) none of my, ooh, thirty or forty odd favourite blogs, from across the political/non-political spectrum, are MSM with the sole except of Bad Science. The overwhelming majority of what the MSM produces is mindless shit. That&#039;s why we spend so much of our time deconstructing it on our blogs. This must be catching, because when I write for the MSM I am myself overwhelmingly shit.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it helps to remember why ID is doing this. As someone else has said, he is positioning himself as the emissary between blogosphere and mainstream media. The reason this is working very well is that he has similar tastes to people in the mainstream media &#8211; who are delighted when he confirms their existing view of blogging.</p>
<p>I read an interesting interview with him a little while ago, can&#8217;t remember what paper I&#8217;m afraid. In it he said left-wing (I think; it may have been broader than that) blogs weren&#8217;t moving on or being innovative, and suggested that much of the blogging in the MSM is now as good as a lot of political blogging. These are both opinions, and I for one would differ from both of them.* But the fact that they are shared opinions between ID and the MSM means they come to accept them as a sort of truth.</p>
<p>So the 100 best political blah just continues this confirmation process. The MSM aren&#8217;t interested in indie stuff (broadly conceived) in the first place, so it&#8217;s not like we&#8217;re missing out on a window of opportunity to get left-lib blogs more widely read as a result of ID&#8217;s views. The window was never open, never will be. I&#8217;ll submit nominations just because it&#8217;s a fun and neighbourly thing to do. I textvote in Strictly Come Dancing as well sometimes; doesn&#8217;t mean I give a toss.</p>
<p>*(because (1) I couldn&#8217;t give a toss who embeds/polls/liveblogs, I just want to read good, thoughtful, liberal writing, and frankly I&#8217;d be just as happy with a pencil and paper if it was as easily transmittable; (2) none of my, ooh, thirty or forty odd favourite blogs, from across the political/non-political spectrum, are MSM with the sole except of Bad Science. The overwhelming majority of what the MSM produces is mindless shit. That&#8217;s why we spend so much of our time deconstructing it on our blogs. This must be catching, because when I write for the MSM I am myself overwhelmingly shit.)</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17290</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its a group blog - I don&#039;t know if you understand the nature of those cjcjc.

Bob Piper above is spot on. I wouldn&#039;t have a problem with Iain Dale&#039;s thing if he wasn&#039;t so disparaging of left blogs without even linking to them!
I&#039;m disparaging of right-blogs but most of the time I link to them when pointing out who I&#039;m attacking and why. 

Iain Dale constantly tells his readers left blogs are crap and then wants to set up a poll to determine the state of the blogosphere. I just wanted to make a point, which I have. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a group blog &#8211; I don&#8217;t know if you understand the nature of those cjcjc.</p>
<p>Bob Piper above is spot on. I wouldn&#8217;t have a problem with Iain Dale&#8217;s thing if he wasn&#8217;t so disparaging of left blogs without even linking to them!<br />
I&#8217;m disparaging of right-blogs but most of the time I link to them when pointing out who I&#8217;m attacking and why. </p>
<p>Iain Dale constantly tells his readers left blogs are crap and then wants to set up a poll to determine the state of the blogosphere. I just wanted to make a point, which I have. <img src='http://liberalconspiracy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: The Iain Dale Total Politics top blogs list &#124; Liberal Democrat Voice</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17287</link>
		<dc:creator>The Iain Dale Total Politics top blogs list &#124; Liberal Democrat Voice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 13:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what was my dilemma? Well, Sunny Hundal over at Liberal Conspiracy has summed it up rather well:  Now, I have nothing against Iain Dale personally - he’s a lovely [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what was my dilemma? Well, Sunny Hundal over at Liberal Conspiracy has summed it up rather well:  Now, I have nothing against Iain Dale personally &#8211; he’s a lovely [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jailhouselawyer</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17284</link>
		<dc:creator>jailhouselawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL.</description>
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		<title>By: Leon</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17283</link>
		<dc:creator>Leon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1000, 

1 to change it and the other 999 to boycott the way it was changed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1000, </p>
<p>1 to change it and the other 999 to boycott the way it was changed.</p>
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		<title>By: jailhouselawyer</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/21/not-supporting-iain-dales-top-blogs-competition/#comment-17276</link>
		<dc:creator>jailhouselawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many Liberal Conspiracy readers does it take to change a light bulb?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many Liberal Conspiracy readers does it take to change a light bulb?</p>
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		<title>By: Unity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 11:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hence your posts on Guido, Harry Cole (who?)&lt;/i&gt;

Not Sunny&#039;s posts, but mine - this &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a group blog - and as you can see I&#039;ve not commented on this issue here, nor do I intend to.

I have my own thoughts on this, but if I choose to air them then it&#039;ll be over at the Ministry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hence your posts on Guido, Harry Cole (who?)</i></p>
<p>Not Sunny&#8217;s posts, but mine &#8211; this <i>is</i> a group blog &#8211; and as you can see I&#8217;ve not commented on this issue here, nor do I intend to.</p>
<p>I have my own thoughts on this, but if I choose to air them then it&#8217;ll be over at the Ministry.</p>
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