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	<title>Comments on: Canvassing in Haltemprice and Howden</title>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/11/canvassing-in-haltemprice-and-howden/#comment-16632</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>um, isn&#039;t there a legal problem with defining unharvested crops as property, seeing as land can&#039;t technically be destroyed? 

From what I&#039;ve seen criminal damage and trespassing already adequately covers this area of law, but these lesser laws don&#039;t confer sufficient powers which address the political context of their commission and therefore are less of a priority when it comes to allocating enforcement resources. 

In this sense the artificial creation of the new term &#039;terrorism&#039; is understandably applied to protests, but it fails to take into account the distinction between the various natures of non-violent protesting (traffic disturbance, trespass etc) and politically motivated crimes (bombing, murder etc).

As such it is not even a case of using a sledgehammer to crack a nut, but of using the sledgehammer to cut a cake - it is prinicpally a matter of using legislation to paper over the cracks opened up by insufficient resources for law-enforcement.

Getting back to the topic at hand, this is where DD&#039;s single-issue crusade falls down. Civil liberties aren&#039;t enough on their own, they demand institutional and organisational support to prevent chaos and repression entering the vacuum left by any neglect. 

In this way a good police force, properly trained, regulated and sufficiently resouced for the job becomes a force for liberty, when a demoralised, confused and stretched force becomes a tool of authoritarianism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>um, isn&#8217;t there a legal problem with defining unharvested crops as property, seeing as land can&#8217;t technically be destroyed? </p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve seen criminal damage and trespassing already adequately covers this area of law, but these lesser laws don&#8217;t confer sufficient powers which address the political context of their commission and therefore are less of a priority when it comes to allocating enforcement resources. </p>
<p>In this sense the artificial creation of the new term &#8216;terrorism&#8217; is understandably applied to protests, but it fails to take into account the distinction between the various natures of non-violent protesting (traffic disturbance, trespass etc) and politically motivated crimes (bombing, murder etc).</p>
<p>As such it is not even a case of using a sledgehammer to crack a nut, but of using the sledgehammer to cut a cake &#8211; it is prinicpally a matter of using legislation to paper over the cracks opened up by insufficient resources for law-enforcement.</p>
<p>Getting back to the topic at hand, this is where DD&#8217;s single-issue crusade falls down. Civil liberties aren&#8217;t enough on their own, they demand institutional and organisational support to prevent chaos and repression entering the vacuum left by any neglect. </p>
<p>In this way a good police force, properly trained, regulated and sufficiently resouced for the job becomes a force for liberty, when a demoralised, confused and stretched force becomes a tool of authoritarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Griffin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coupled with the fact we can&#039;t deal with the food situation we&#039;re in without GM foods and I think it&#039;s a prime example of terrorism. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coupled with the fact we can&#8217;t deal with the food situation we&#8217;re in without GM foods and I think it&#8217;s a prime example of terrorism. <img src='http://liberalconspiracy.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ukliberty</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/11/canvassing-in-haltemprice-and-howden/#comment-16629</link>
		<dc:creator>ukliberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;He laid special emphasis on how regular forms of protest, for example against GM crops, are now being defined as acts of terrorism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;Do you mean the protests where property is destroyed?

Such actions do fall within the legal definition of terrorism.  I&#039;m not sure they should be classed as terrorism, but they certainly seem wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>He laid special emphasis on how regular forms of protest, for example against GM crops, are now being defined as acts of terrorism.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you mean the protests where property is destroyed?</p>
<p>Such actions do fall within the legal definition of terrorism.  I&#8217;m not sure they should be classed as terrorism, but they certainly seem wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Archly vainglorious, long to watch over us? Though Cowards Flinch: &#8220;We all know what happens to those who stand in the middle of the road &#8212; they get run down.&#8221; - Aneurin Bevan</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Archly vainglorious, long to watch over us? Though Cowards Flinch: &#8220;We all know what happens to those who stand in the middle of the road &#8212; they get run down.&#8221; - Aneurin Bevan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 07:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] when it becomes clear after Anthony Barnett&#8217;s &#8220;ten year fight&#8221; that actually Davis&#8217; &#8220;knight&#8217;s move&#8221; changed [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] when it becomes clear after Anthony Barnett&#8217;s &#8220;ten year fight&#8221; that actually Davis&#8217; &#8220;knight&#8217;s move&#8221; changed [...]</p>
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