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	<title>Comments on: Both 50 Cent and Paul Dacre corrupt the youth</title>
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		<title>By: Rod</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-26168</link>
		<dc:creator>Rod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man yall crackaz need to stop finding someone to blame and take the fuckin responsibility to blame your fuckin self. don&#039;t blame 50 cent because you let your kidslisten to your music and yall crackaz did the same thing with 2pac and now he&#039;s dead. Is that what yall want? 50 cent dead? and now he got more than most of yall crackaz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man yall crackaz need to stop finding someone to blame and take the fuckin responsibility to blame your fuckin self. don&#8217;t blame 50 cent because you let your kidslisten to your music and yall crackaz did the same thing with 2pac and now he&#8217;s dead. Is that what yall want? 50 cent dead? and now he got more than most of yall crackaz.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Dew</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-24561</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Dew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I had to post again a final post - I apologise for swearing in my last post but one, this is of course not directed at any internet viewers of the site, and I really apologise for swearing, but I do hope people will start to take note of my comments, because it&#039;s like I&#039;ve been a one-man campaigner for the last 7 years.  Let&#039;s just hope that all violence starts to be regarded as a very uncool thing to do, and all gleaming headlines like another I&#039;ll quote  &quot;No.10 Knives Are Out For Poisonous Brown Ally&quot; are  I believe very dangerous, and sick people see these headlines as a catalyst to commit murder.  And furthermore I believe it&#039;s happend time after time after time during the last 7 years (since July 2001).  I&#039;m really upset by the whole disgusting business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I had to post again a final post &#8211; I apologise for swearing in my last post but one, this is of course not directed at any internet viewers of the site, and I really apologise for swearing, but I do hope people will start to take note of my comments, because it&#8217;s like I&#8217;ve been a one-man campaigner for the last 7 years.  Let&#8217;s just hope that all violence starts to be regarded as a very uncool thing to do, and all gleaming headlines like another I&#8217;ll quote  &#8220;No.10 Knives Are Out For Poisonous Brown Ally&#8221; are  I believe very dangerous, and sick people see these headlines as a catalyst to commit murder.  And furthermore I believe it&#8217;s happend time after time after time during the last 7 years (since July 2001).  I&#8217;m really upset by the whole disgusting business.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Dew</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-24560</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Dew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May I further add..

If Paul Dacre cannot be sacked, then perhaps the newspaper should be shut down.

Other newspaper editors like Richard Wallace of the Daily Mirror and Rebekah Wade of the Sun should take care that their own newspapers do not use knife dysphemisms or cacophemisms too.

But at least they did not print such headlines in an obsessive continuous manner.

What kind of a &quot;family newspaper&quot; prints a headline like   &quot;Who who wield the knife?&quot; as a double page spread in the first few pages of its&#039; contents ?  

What kind of a &quot;family newspaper&quot; prints a headline like  &quot;Knives are being sharpened&quot; with reference to City news, or on another occasion, also in City knives, &quot;Barlcays&#039; Knives&quot;.

Did you know after the latest &quot;Knives are out&quot; headline just a few months ago, in the Daily Mail - although it was printed as a smaller headline, 8 people were stabbed to death in one day, just a fwe days later.

Since which time the  &quot;knife&quot; headline has been used further times.

Why is Mr. Dacre obsessed with using these knife headlines?  Obsessed with scaring the nation with Knife culture related headlines like  &quot;The Spectre of the Knife&quot;.  What the Hell has this man been doing?
  
I do not wish anybody to be murdered or attacked with a knife.  I do not wish to be personally murdered or attacked.  I have a business to run called &quot;smokenotar.com&quot;

Only two days ago, I had to act quickly to stop a knife incident outside my house late in the evening, where somebody was trying to make a film of stabbing someone so that they could upload their &quot;first&quot; recording of their attack onto an internet site - for viewing and downloading.  How disgusted do I feel !  

This is serious as hell.  







Peter Dew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May I further add..</p>
<p>If Paul Dacre cannot be sacked, then perhaps the newspaper should be shut down.</p>
<p>Other newspaper editors like Richard Wallace of the Daily Mirror and Rebekah Wade of the Sun should take care that their own newspapers do not use knife dysphemisms or cacophemisms too.</p>
<p>But at least they did not print such headlines in an obsessive continuous manner.</p>
<p>What kind of a &#8220;family newspaper&#8221; prints a headline like   &#8220;Who who wield the knife?&#8221; as a double page spread in the first few pages of its&#8217; contents ?  </p>
<p>What kind of a &#8220;family newspaper&#8221; prints a headline like  &#8220;Knives are being sharpened&#8221; with reference to City news, or on another occasion, also in City knives, &#8220;Barlcays&#8217; Knives&#8221;.</p>
<p>Did you know after the latest &#8220;Knives are out&#8221; headline just a few months ago, in the Daily Mail &#8211; although it was printed as a smaller headline, 8 people were stabbed to death in one day, just a fwe days later.</p>
<p>Since which time the  &#8220;knife&#8221; headline has been used further times.</p>
<p>Why is Mr. Dacre obsessed with using these knife headlines?  Obsessed with scaring the nation with Knife culture related headlines like  &#8220;The Spectre of the Knife&#8221;.  What the Hell has this man been doing?</p>
<p>I do not wish anybody to be murdered or attacked with a knife.  I do not wish to be personally murdered or attacked.  I have a business to run called &#8220;smokenotar.com&#8221;</p>
<p>Only two days ago, I had to act quickly to stop a knife incident outside my house late in the evening, where somebody was trying to make a film of stabbing someone so that they could upload their &#8220;first&#8221; recording of their attack onto an internet site &#8211; for viewing and downloading.  How disgusted do I feel !  </p>
<p>This is serious as hell.  </p>
<p>Peter Dew.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Dew</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-24558</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Dew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am utterly determined that this paper stops printing knife dysphemisms.  This guy can&#039;t be allowed to get away with this.  I have submitted some of my information to the police, I have attempted to spend £1,850 of my own money publishing an open letter (printed as an &#039;ad&#039;) in The Times to ask Mr. Dacre to respond to me about my concerns for his apparent knife headline obsession, and the result was a helpful call from the Managing Editor of the Times at 8.30pm at night, advising that the ad had been pulled after a call from the Management of the Daily Mail.  I was further advised me that Paul Dacre, Chief Editor of the Daily Mail would telephone me.  He did not, he got his deputy to call me, who proceeded to defend his newspaper as best he could! I personally feel the newspaper group cannot continue with this guy in his job.  The late Sir David English, the predecessor editor, NEVER printed Knife dysphemisms/cacophemisms (when I read the paper as a young boy about 15) and I did not SOMETIMES DAILY have to put up with another miserable report of murder in the newspaper or other media news source.  Knife culture cannot be allowed to continue, when the fuck will people start to listen to me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am utterly determined that this paper stops printing knife dysphemisms.  This guy can&#8217;t be allowed to get away with this.  I have submitted some of my information to the police, I have attempted to spend £1,850 of my own money publishing an open letter (printed as an &#8216;ad&#8217;) in The Times to ask Mr. Dacre to respond to me about my concerns for his apparent knife headline obsession, and the result was a helpful call from the Managing Editor of the Times at 8.30pm at night, advising that the ad had been pulled after a call from the Management of the Daily Mail.  I was further advised me that Paul Dacre, Chief Editor of the Daily Mail would telephone me.  He did not, he got his deputy to call me, who proceeded to defend his newspaper as best he could! I personally feel the newspaper group cannot continue with this guy in his job.  The late Sir David English, the predecessor editor, NEVER printed Knife dysphemisms/cacophemisms (when I read the paper as a young boy about 15) and I did not SOMETIMES DAILY have to put up with another miserable report of murder in the newspaper or other media news source.  Knife culture cannot be allowed to continue, when the fuck will people start to listen to me?</p>
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		<title>By: john b</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-16576</link>
		<dc:creator>john b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know whether Peter D&#039;s comment is earnestly barking or an absolutely superb satire on the media&#039;s use of statistics, but either way I love it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know whether Peter D&#8217;s comment is earnestly barking or an absolutely superb satire on the media&#8217;s use of statistics, but either way I love it.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter D</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-16575</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 21:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In JULY 2001 the Daily Mail newspaper published the FRONTPAGE headline as follows:-

&quot;KNIVES ARE OUT FOR GORDON BROWN&quot;

Since July 2001, the Daily Mail has used &quot;Knife&quot; &#039;dysphemism&#039; headlines on over 100 occasions.

Whenever they print such a headline, there is always guaranteed to be at least one murder, which is then reported a few days later.  When I wrote to Paul Dacre about this in 2001, he responded by using &quot;Knives come out&quot; or &quot;Knives are out&quot; at least once a week for about 6 weeks.

The expression &quot;Knives are out&quot; printed as a headline is a catalytic trigger to mentally unstable people with a predisposition to kill with knives, there&#039;s no doubt about it.

So when will the Daily Mail stop doing this?  Other papers have done similar things.  Recently, the Sun printed &quot;MPs queue up to knife Brown&quot; on page 2 of their paper.  That afternoon a man was killed in Oxford Street in broad daylight.

There is a massive connection, because I have interviewed someone who threatened shop staff with a knife (in 2006) and she says she felt compelled to do it after reading one of these &quot;Knives are out&quot; headlines!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In JULY 2001 the Daily Mail newspaper published the FRONTPAGE headline as follows:-</p>
<p>&#8220;KNIVES ARE OUT FOR GORDON BROWN&#8221;</p>
<p>Since July 2001, the Daily Mail has used &#8220;Knife&#8221; &#8216;dysphemism&#8217; headlines on over 100 occasions.</p>
<p>Whenever they print such a headline, there is always guaranteed to be at least one murder, which is then reported a few days later.  When I wrote to Paul Dacre about this in 2001, he responded by using &#8220;Knives come out&#8221; or &#8220;Knives are out&#8221; at least once a week for about 6 weeks.</p>
<p>The expression &#8220;Knives are out&#8221; printed as a headline is a catalytic trigger to mentally unstable people with a predisposition to kill with knives, there&#8217;s no doubt about it.</p>
<p>So when will the Daily Mail stop doing this?  Other papers have done similar things.  Recently, the Sun printed &#8220;MPs queue up to knife Brown&#8221; on page 2 of their paper.  That afternoon a man was killed in Oxford Street in broad daylight.</p>
<p>There is a massive connection, because I have interviewed someone who threatened shop staff with a knife (in 2006) and she says she felt compelled to do it after reading one of these &#8220;Knives are out&#8221; headlines!</p>
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		<title>By: john b</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15801</link>
		<dc:creator>john b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite. So &quot;social authoritarians with a dislike of the current government claim, without evidence, that social authoritarians whose funding goes up if crime goes up claim, without evidence, that knife crime is getting worse&quot;, then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite. So &#8220;social authoritarians with a dislike of the current government claim, without evidence, that social authoritarians whose funding goes up if crime goes up claim, without evidence, that knife crime is getting worse&#8221;, then.</p>
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		<title>By: BritSwedeGuy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15798</link>
		<dc:creator>BritSwedeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Policy Exchange is an independent think tank whose mission is to develop and promote new policy ideas which will foster a free society based on strong communities, personal freedom, limited government, national self-confidence and an enterprise culture.&quot;
Sound like Tories to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Policy Exchange is an independent think tank whose mission is to develop and promote new policy ideas which will foster a free society based on strong communities, personal freedom, limited government, national self-confidence and an enterprise culture.&#8221;<br />
Sound like Tories to me.</p>
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		<title>By: john b</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15796</link>
		<dc:creator>john b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. &quot;Partisan think-tank claims, without evidence, that police claim, without evidence, that knife crime is getting worse&quot; might be a more accurate summary of the above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. &#8220;Partisan think-tank claims, without evidence, that police claim, without evidence, that knife crime is getting worse&#8221; might be a more accurate summary of the above.</p>
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		<title>By: BritSwedeGuy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15749</link>
		<dc:creator>BritSwedeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Police say that knife crime IS getting worse&quot;:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/UK-Knife-Crime-Worse-Than-Statistics-Suggest-Say-Frontline-Police-Officers/Article/200807215028782
But that is Sky News...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Police say that knife crime IS getting worse&#8221;:<br />
<a href="http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/UK-Knife-Crime-Worse-Than-Statistics-Suggest-Say-Frontline-Police-Officers/Article/200807215028782" rel="nofollow">http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/UK-Knife-Crime-Worse-Than-Statistics-Suggest-Say-Frontline-Police-Officers/Article/200807215028782</a><br />
But that is Sky News&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BritSwedeGuy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15660</link>
		<dc:creator>BritSwedeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stabbed victims tell no tales (not sure which smiley would be appropriate here!)
More muddifying anecdotallage: I actually saw far more violence in my youth in Sheffield than I&#039;ve seen in London, and I never saw any in notorious Nottingham.
Maybe it&#039;s the places I go - and not living in Brixton like my girlfriend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stabbed victims tell no tales (not sure which smiley would be appropriate here!)<br />
More muddifying anecdotallage: I actually saw far more violence in my youth in Sheffield than I&#8217;ve seen in London, and I never saw any in notorious Nottingham.<br />
Maybe it&#8217;s the places I go &#8211; and not living in Brixton like my girlfriend.</p>
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		<title>By: john b</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15658</link>
		<dc:creator>john b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BCS isn&#039;t reported crime, it&#039;s survey-based and nobody serious questions its methodology. It only applies to over-18s, but I&#039;m assuming your girlfriend and her flatmates fall into that category.

...thus proving the point in my article linked above, about The People having massively exaggerated fear of crime because they don&#039;t understand that anecdotes are worthless and statistics are vital [ha ha...].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BCS isn&#8217;t reported crime, it&#8217;s survey-based and nobody serious questions its methodology. It only applies to over-18s, but I&#8217;m assuming your girlfriend and her flatmates fall into that category.</p>
<p>&#8230;thus proving the point in my article linked above, about The People having massively exaggerated fear of crime because they don&#8217;t understand that anecdotes are worthless and statistics are vital [ha ha...].</p>
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		<title>By: BritSwedeGuy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15656</link>
		<dc:creator>BritSwedeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: BBC on knife crime - that&#039;s reported knife crime.
My girlfriend has 3 flatmates, they&#039;ve been mugged 4 times in the last year between them. I realise that&#039;s no survey but I wouldn&#039;t trust Home Office (BCS) statistics any further than I could happily throw them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: BBC on knife crime &#8211; that&#8217;s reported knife crime.<br />
My girlfriend has 3 flatmates, they&#8217;ve been mugged 4 times in the last year between them. I realise that&#8217;s no survey but I wouldn&#8217;t trust Home Office (BCS) statistics any further than I could happily throw them.</p>
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		<title>By: john b</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15654</link>
		<dc:creator>john b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’m far more likely to be stabbed on my way home&quot;

As the BBC piece linked above highlights, no you aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m far more likely to be stabbed on my way home&#8221;</p>
<p>As the BBC piece linked above highlights, no you aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: BritSwedeGuy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15644</link>
		<dc:creator>BritSwedeGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 10:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, the Sex Pistols. Whenever I think how much worse the world is becoming that&#039;s the first counter-argument I think of - a bunch of mad Christians and local politicians stopped me from seeing them but I can see them now. Of course it costs 10 times as much and I&#039;m far more likely to be stabbed on my way home. but still...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, the Sex Pistols. Whenever I think how much worse the world is becoming that&#8217;s the first counter-argument I think of &#8211; a bunch of mad Christians and local politicians stopped me from seeing them but I can see them now. Of course it costs 10 times as much and I&#8217;m far more likely to be stabbed on my way home. but still&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Banditry &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Well worth the license fee</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15610</link>
		<dc:creator>Banditry &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Well worth the license fee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 22:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] very sensible point that Mr Easton makes, as also made coherently and provocatively by Dave Osler at Liberal Conspiracy, is that the massive and deranged overhyping of the non-event [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] very sensible point that Mr Easton makes, as also made coherently and provocatively by Dave Osler at Liberal Conspiracy, is that the massive and deranged overhyping of the non-event [...]</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15605</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 20:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@5 you waste your breath and by the terms of your prescription it would be an empty gesture. As for the rest, look in the mirror, friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@5 you waste your breath and by the terms of your prescription it would be an empty gesture. As for the rest, look in the mirror, friend.</p>
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		<title>By: septicisle</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15596</link>
		<dc:creator>septicisle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More of concern than whether teenagers etc are carrying knives to strike out at the Daily Mail is whether youths are being influenced to carry them precisely because of the media coverage which suggests that so many are carrying them.

Incidentally, there&#039;s another excellent post by Mark Easton here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2008/07/sceptical_of_knife_epidemic.html

disputing the IoS figures which were publicised yesterday.  I don&#039;t think anyone is disputing that there is a serious, potentially intractable problem in parts of London, but to suggest it&#039;s country-wide is simply not backed up by the facts at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More of concern than whether teenagers etc are carrying knives to strike out at the Daily Mail is whether youths are being influenced to carry them precisely because of the media coverage which suggests that so many are carrying them.</p>
<p>Incidentally, there&#8217;s another excellent post by Mark Easton here: <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2008/07/sceptical_of_knife_epidemic.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markeaston/2008/07/sceptical_of_knife_epidemic.html</a></p>
<p>disputing the IoS figures which were publicised yesterday.  I don&#8217;t think anyone is disputing that there is a serious, potentially intractable problem in parts of London, but to suggest it&#8217;s country-wide is simply not backed up by the facts at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: ac256</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15588</link>
		<dc:creator>ac256</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this pathetic politics while another young man has died today.

A blog worth its salt as a moral and political force would be arguing today for a black leader in City Hall with the mutual backing of all 3 parties, to fill the vacuum left by the departures of Jasper and Lewis and get a grip on the situation.

Instead it&#039;s party politics as usual, and you lot having YET another wank about the Daily Mail.

Pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this pathetic politics while another young man has died today.</p>
<p>A blog worth its salt as a moral and political force would be arguing today for a black leader in City Hall with the mutual backing of all 3 parties, to fill the vacuum left by the departures of Jasper and Lewis and get a grip on the situation.</p>
<p>Instead it&#8217;s party politics as usual, and you lot having YET another wank about the Daily Mail.</p>
<p>Pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Knight</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15586</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is certainly no surprise to anyone familiar with the concept of &#039;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Proof&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;social proof&lt;/a&gt;&#039; - the more that the media tells kids that &#039;everyone&#039; has knives - and I&#039;ve seen plenty of well-meaning media morons parrot this line over the last few months - the more likely they are to think that &#039;well, if &lt;em&gt;everyone&lt;/em&gt; is doing it, I don&#039;t want to be the only one who isn&#039;t...&#039;.  And kids are uniquely vulnerable to this, because they don&#039;t have enough experience and sense of self to defy what must look, to them, like unstoppable social trends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is certainly no surprise to anyone familiar with the concept of &#8216;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Proof" rel="nofollow">social proof</a>&#8216; &#8211; the more that the media tells kids that &#8216;everyone&#8217; has knives &#8211; and I&#8217;ve seen plenty of well-meaning media morons parrot this line over the last few months &#8211; the more likely they are to think that &#8216;well, if <em>everyone</em> is doing it, I don&#8217;t want to be the only one who isn&#8217;t&#8230;&#8217;.  And kids are uniquely vulnerable to this, because they don&#8217;t have enough experience and sense of self to defy what must look, to them, like unstoppable social trends.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15584</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 16:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If i ever meet Paul Dacre, I would have one question for him: how can the Daily Mail be outraged by youths murdering other youths when it has spent the last decade breeding hate, contempt and fear against those very youths.&lt;/i&gt;

Spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If i ever meet Paul Dacre, I would have one question for him: how can the Daily Mail be outraged by youths murdering other youths when it has spent the last decade breeding hate, contempt and fear against those very youths.</i></p>
<p>Spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Clarke</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15583</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it funny that the Daily Mail is so concerned that sex sells when its own founder admitted that it makes its money by selling hate. Don&#039;t get me wrong, a culture where sex sells can be very bad for women in many ways. However, I think its easy to conclude that out of the two, a culture where hate sells is far more dangerous than a culture where sex sells.

If i ever meet Paul Dacre, I would have one question for him: how can the Daily Mail be outraged by youths murdering other youths when it has spent the last decade breeding hate, contempt and fear against those very youths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it funny that the Daily Mail is so concerned that sex sells when its own founder admitted that it makes its money by selling hate. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, a culture where sex sells can be very bad for women in many ways. However, I think its easy to conclude that out of the two, a culture where hate sells is far more dangerous than a culture where sex sells.</p>
<p>If i ever meet Paul Dacre, I would have one question for him: how can the Daily Mail be outraged by youths murdering other youths when it has spent the last decade breeding hate, contempt and fear against those very youths.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/07/07/both-50-cent-and-paul-dacre-corrupt-the-youth/#comment-15575</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahaha!

Another old chestnut - to what extent does culture inform or reflect politics (*and vice versa)?

I suggest the answer lies in the false definition of the question. The transition from youth to maturity is the process by which innocence is corrupted - so how you describe the nature of the paradox is a statement of self-description above anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahaha!</p>
<p>Another old chestnut &#8211; to what extent does culture inform or reflect politics (*and vice versa)?</p>
<p>I suggest the answer lies in the false definition of the question. The transition from youth to maturity is the process by which innocence is corrupted &#8211; so how you describe the nature of the paradox is a statement of self-description above anything else.</p>
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