Comments on: Immigration is also a feminist issue

By: Luis Enrique

Luis Enrique — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:02:11 +0000

“But the debate around immigration has been dominated by a right-wing, racist, xenophobic “keep them all out!” framing for way too long.”

What is this ‘framing’? Do you mean that the debate has been dominated by right-wing, racist, xenophobia? That’s an empirical claim, and I think a false one. It probably reflects the blogs/newspapers I read but I have encountered lots of pro-immigration arguments, and some anti-immigration arguments that are not racist or xenophobic. Of course many who oppose immigration are racist etc. but I do not think they dominate the debate by any means.

Do you mean that debate is usually over (‘framed’ as a question of) how much immigration to allow (how many to ‘keep out’)? This argument usually being preceded by the benefits and costs of immigration. But that’s not a racist or right wing way of looking at the question – how else would a debate over immigration policy be ‘framed’? If you’re view is that we should allow lots of immigration, isn’t that still ‘framed’ in the same way (just reaching a different conclusion).

And if I was somebody who wanted to restrict immigration on non-racist or xenophobic grounds (I’m not) I would feel you’d ‘framed’ me as a racist and xenophobe.

By: Jess

Jess — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:22:57 +0000

Yep, I don’t think immigration is only a feminist issue!! This was originally posted at The F Word, the online feminist magazine I edit. I was specifically framing immigration as an issue for feminists to be concerned with in that context… Obviously there’s more to it than that!

By: leon

leon — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:45:51 +0000

I’m suspicious of all these proclamations, can’t help feel it’s just electioneering getting a bit out of control…

By: Pickled Politics » Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants?

Pickled Politics » Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants? — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:07:56 +0000

[...] immigrants? by Rumbold on 10th April, 2008 at 8:07 pm Over at Liberal Conspiracy, Jess McCabe highlights that the three main London Mayoral candidates support an amnesty for illegal immigrants: [...]

By: Sunny Hundal

Sunny Hundal — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:48:51 +0000

I don’t think Jess’s implication is that it is only a feminist issue…. though its true that its not sufficiently looked through that framework.
I’ve amended the headline anyway.

By: septicisle

septicisle — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:29:54 +0000

Thank God. There I was thinking that immigration affected everyone, but you’ve put me straight.

By: Pennyred

Pennyred — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:07:28 +0000

‘I can’t even remember the last time I saw a policy on immigration which wasn’t about making the rules tougher. Here’s hoping this is the first of many moves towards reform.’

You said it, sister.

Have you seen these guys, Feminists Against Borders? http://www.workersliberty.org/node/9154

By: Lee Griffin

Lee Griffin — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:48:44 +0000

For fear of death, I won’t hold my breath, not with an election almost visible on the horizon.