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	<title>Comments on: Casting the net &#8211; Between a Rock and the Ad Men</title>
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		<title>By: Lee Griffin</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/18/casting-the-net-between-a-rock-and-the-ad-men/#comment-5423</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers for the compliment Doug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers for the compliment Doug</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Heath</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/18/casting-the-net-between-a-rock-and-the-ad-men/#comment-5413</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi douglas,

No, as Sunny as pointed out, you have my email slightly wrong (you&#039;d think these systems would know what you mean, eh?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi douglas,</p>
<p>No, as Sunny as pointed out, you have my email slightly wrong (you&#8217;d think these systems would know what you mean, eh?).</p>
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		<title>By: cjcjc</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/18/casting-the-net-between-a-rock-and-the-ad-men/#comment-5412</link>
		<dc:creator>cjcjc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for directing me to Clairwil - what a hoot!
Max Gogarty (brilliant name) might be a &quot;whining little prick&quot; - and I&#039;ll take his &quot;disillusion&quot; with the world of the media with a large pinch of salt - but his is nothing compared to the whining mass of commenters I found on those threads.
Vitriolic is not the word.
Nothing but bitterness and envy is my conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for directing me to Clairwil &#8211; what a hoot!<br />
Max Gogarty (brilliant name) might be a &#8220;whining little prick&#8221; &#8211; and I&#8217;ll take his &#8220;disillusion&#8221; with the world of the media with a large pinch of salt &#8211; but his is nothing compared to the whining mass of commenters I found on those threads.<br />
Vitriolic is not the word.<br />
Nothing but bitterness and envy is my conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its aaron&lt;b&gt;h&lt;/b&gt;@libcon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its aaron<b>h</b>@libcon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/18/casting-the-net-between-a-rock-and-the-ad-men/#comment-5400</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron,

Why does Aaron@liberalconspiracy.org come up with a message saying you have barred me from talking to you?

Was it something I said?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron,</p>
<p>Why does <a href="mailto:Aaron@liberalconspiracy.org">Aaron@liberalconspiracy.org</a> come up with a message saying you have barred me from talking to you?</p>
<p>Was it something I said?</p>
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		<title>By: douglas clark</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/18/casting-the-net-between-a-rock-and-the-ad-men/#comment-5398</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that Lee Griffin laddie not a writer on here? We should get to see his comments on the week as an item on their own, I think.

Excellent stuff. Thanks Aaron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that Lee Griffin laddie not a writer on here? We should get to see his comments on the week as an item on their own, I think.</p>
<p>Excellent stuff. Thanks Aaron.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.order-order.com/2008/02/seventies-socialism-returns.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Guido&#039;s piece.&lt;/a&gt;

He talks a lot of sense, but I would take issue when he says &quot;there was no systemic risk to the financial system.&quot;

There absolutely was a short-term risk to the system. If NR would have defaulted on committed transfers, the knock-on effect would have caused serious problems across the UK system, and would have rippled into other markets. Last year a German bank ran out of cash and it caused major problems. 

From an ideological POV, I would have preferred to see the bank collapse. I don&#039;t see a role for the government in a private industry. The move was entirely political - but I can understand it. The treasury, and Number 10, feared that it may have led to runs on other banks - the media images and psychological impact would have been terrible for the government.

I think Guido is overplaying his hand with the socialist nonsense. Everyone knows this is the solution the government least wanted (at least initially).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just read <a href="http://www.order-order.com/2008/02/seventies-socialism-returns.html" rel="nofollow">Guido&#8217;s piece.</a></p>
<p>He talks a lot of sense, but I would take issue when he says &#8220;there was no systemic risk to the financial system.&#8221;</p>
<p>There absolutely was a short-term risk to the system. If NR would have defaulted on committed transfers, the knock-on effect would have caused serious problems across the UK system, and would have rippled into other markets. Last year a German bank ran out of cash and it caused major problems. </p>
<p>From an ideological POV, I would have preferred to see the bank collapse. I don&#8217;t see a role for the government in a private industry. The move was entirely political &#8211; but I can understand it. The treasury, and Number 10, feared that it may have led to runs on other banks &#8211; the media images and psychological impact would have been terrible for the government.</p>
<p>I think Guido is overplaying his hand with the socialist nonsense. Everyone knows this is the solution the government least wanted (at least initially).</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Heath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, no not particularly that blogger (but you&#039;re very warm). Like myself, finance is actually Staines&#039; background (although I haven&#039;t read his commentary this morning).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, no not particularly that blogger (but you&#8217;re very warm). Like myself, finance is actually Staines&#8217; background (although I haven&#8217;t read his commentary this morning).</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/02/18/casting-the-net-between-a-rock-and-the-ad-men/#comment-5354</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Alex Wilcox rips the government to pieces in a lengthy post, and one that conveys much more understanding of the situation than many high-profile bloggers who have exposed themselves terribly this morning. No names. Naturally.&quot;

It&#039;s a brilliant post.  And for your final lines - you&#039;re not casting any Staines on any particular characters are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Alex Wilcox rips the government to pieces in a lengthy post, and one that conveys much more understanding of the situation than many high-profile bloggers who have exposed themselves terribly this morning. No names. Naturally.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a brilliant post.  And for your final lines &#8211; you&#8217;re not casting any Staines on any particular characters are you?</p>
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