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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-4037</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Put your hands in the air!....

....for &lt;em&gt;Pik Botha&lt;/em&gt;!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Put your hands in the air!&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;.for <em>Pik Botha</em>!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Guido Fawkes</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-4031</link>
		<dc:creator>Guido Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I manipulate Justin McKeating into writing about me.</description>
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		<title>By: Justin McKeating</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-4022</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin McKeating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 10:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Praguetory</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-4009</link>
		<dc:creator>Praguetory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I manipulate Recess Monkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I manipulate Recess Monkey.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-4005</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;As such, you be forgiven for regarding both Guido and Drudge as mere conduits; alternative venues for other people’s legwork. &lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s more than that. Given that he relies on exclusives like a fish relies on air - Guido is actually much more susceptible to someone&#039;s agenda. Of course, he may judge that agenda to suit his own, but he can easily be manipulated by someone. 

In the case of Prescott, who knows if the someone who decided to leak the information wanted to back-stab him for political purposes? A rival... or even a friend. Who knows. Who cares... right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As such, you be forgiven for regarding both Guido and Drudge as mere conduits; alternative venues for other people’s legwork. </i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s more than that. Given that he relies on exclusives like a fish relies on air &#8211; Guido is actually much more susceptible to someone&#8217;s agenda. Of course, he may judge that agenda to suit his own, but he can easily be manipulated by someone. </p>
<p>In the case of Prescott, who knows if the someone who decided to leak the information wanted to back-stab him for political purposes? A rival&#8230; or even a friend. Who knows. Who cares&#8230; right?</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Heath</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-4004</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the biggest problem for the Tory blogosphere is that 99% of the populous doesn&#039;t read blogs - they don&#039;t even watch Newsnight or listen to the Today programme, so whether Guido has profile or not, he&#039;s just pissing in the wind compared to, say; the influence of the political editor of The Scum.

Let&#039;s keep it all in perspective, people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the biggest problem for the Tory blogosphere is that 99% of the populous doesn&#8217;t read blogs &#8211; they don&#8217;t even watch Newsnight or listen to the Today programme, so whether Guido has profile or not, he&#8217;s just pissing in the wind compared to, say; the influence of the political editor of The Scum.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s keep it all in perspective, people.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Heath</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-4003</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Heath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s just it. Guido will retire to his kids when Cameron sweeps to power. That has always been Guido&#039;s plan. He always been up-front about it. The guy hates Gordon Brown - that pretty much sums him up.

Guido is a tart. But that doesn&#039;t mean he&#039;s an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s just it. Guido will retire to his kids when Cameron sweeps to power. That has always been Guido&#8217;s plan. He always been up-front about it. The guy hates Gordon Brown &#8211; that pretty much sums him up.</p>
<p>Guido is a tart. But that doesn&#8217;t mean he&#8217;s an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-4001</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Or is lying to the American public no longer to be considered a “major crime?”&lt;/i&gt;

Technically you&#039;re right Paul, but he was lying trying to cover up getting blowjobs from somebody other than his wife - I don&#039;t imagine he was the first - not about some major issue of state for which he should have been rightly lambasted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Or is lying to the American public no longer to be considered a “major crime?”</i></p>
<p>Technically you&#8217;re right Paul, but he was lying trying to cover up getting blowjobs from somebody other than his wife &#8211; I don&#8217;t imagine he was the first &#8211; not about some major issue of state for which he should have been rightly lambasted.</p>
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		<title>By: Praguetory</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-3999</link>
		<dc:creator>Praguetory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;Chris Paul (http://chrispaul-labouroflove.blogspot.com/), as partisan as he is, usually does a decent job of tackling the stories he and Iain Dale especially get wrong&#039;

There are two things Chris Paul does. One is defending the indefensible such as when he defended electoral fraud (if it keeps out the Tories). The other is to make himself (and by association all Labour loyalists) look ridiculous and hence I support all publicity for his site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Chris Paul (<a href="http://chrispaul-labouroflove.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://chrispaul-labouroflove.blogspot.com/</a>), as partisan as he is, usually does a decent job of tackling the stories he and Iain Dale especially get wrong&#8217;</p>
<p>There are two things Chris Paul does. One is defending the indefensible such as when he defended electoral fraud (if it keeps out the Tories). The other is to make himself (and by association all Labour loyalists) look ridiculous and hence I support all publicity for his site.</p>
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		<title>By: septicisle</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-3993</link>
		<dc:creator>septicisle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Praguetory, Guido has got stories wrong on so many occasions it would be difficult to list them all.  There was that nonsense for instance last year about there being a Downing Street database to do with cash for honours which it turned out didn&#039;t exist.  Chris Paul (http://chrispaul-labouroflove.blogspot.com/), as partisan as he is, usually does a decent job of tackling the stories he and Iain Dale especially get wrong.

The question is whether he&#039;ll be doing the same to the &quot;unrepentant, arrogant shits&quot; in the Tories if they do get into power.  Of course, when he was quite right to bring up the question of Lord Ashcroft&#039;s tax status you and others jumped on him for doing so.  Little wonder then if he decides not to bother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Praguetory, Guido has got stories wrong on so many occasions it would be difficult to list them all.  There was that nonsense for instance last year about there being a Downing Street database to do with cash for honours which it turned out didn&#8217;t exist.  Chris Paul (<a href="http://chrispaul-labouroflove.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://chrispaul-labouroflove.blogspot.com/</a>), as partisan as he is, usually does a decent job of tackling the stories he and Iain Dale especially get wrong.</p>
<p>The question is whether he&#8217;ll be doing the same to the &#8220;unrepentant, arrogant shits&#8221; in the Tories if they do get into power.  Of course, when he was quite right to bring up the question of Lord Ashcroft&#8217;s tax status you and others jumped on him for doing so.  Little wonder then if he decides not to bother.</p>
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		<title>By: DonaldS</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-3981</link>
		<dc:creator>DonaldS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;but we’ve been around that circle before

I&#039;ve no idea where you&#039;ve been Dominic, but I&#039;m not going to debate a matter of fact with you. You believe whatever you like. Goodbye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>but we’ve been around that circle before</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve no idea where you&#8217;ve been Dominic, but I&#8217;m not going to debate a matter of fact with you. You believe whatever you like. Goodbye.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Linford</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-3976</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Linford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There were many crimes committed by the Clinton Whitehouse. However, I don’t think there are many sane people in the world who think Bill getting a nosh from an intern was one of them. Or at least one of the major ones. How the odd happy finish from Monica impeded the Clinton presidency before right-wing prurience attempted to derail it has never been adequately explained to me.&lt;/i&gt;

I have to admit this bit did make me laugh out loud, as JMcK&#039;s writing frequently does, but the answer is pretty obvious: &lt;i&gt; &quot;I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;  Or is lying to the American public no longer to be considered a &quot;major crime?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There were many crimes committed by the Clinton Whitehouse. However, I don’t think there are many sane people in the world who think Bill getting a nosh from an intern was one of them. Or at least one of the major ones. How the odd happy finish from Monica impeded the Clinton presidency before right-wing prurience attempted to derail it has never been adequately explained to me.</i></p>
<p>I have to admit this bit did make me laugh out loud, as JMcK&#8217;s writing frequently does, but the answer is pretty obvious: <i> &#8220;I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.&#8221;</i>  Or is lying to the American public no longer to be considered a &#8220;major crime?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Praguetory</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-3971</link>
		<dc:creator>Praguetory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;You mean like the time he suggested Mark Oaten was a paedophile&#039;

He didn&#039;t, but we&#039;ve been around that circle before?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;You mean like the time he suggested Mark Oaten was a paedophile&#8217;</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t, but we&#8217;ve been around that circle before?</p>
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		<title>By: DonaldS</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-3967</link>
		<dc:creator>DonaldS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;can’t actually summon up an actual example of false reporting

You mean like the time he suggested Mark Oaten was a paedophile? Stuff like that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>can’t actually summon up an actual example of false reporting</p>
<p>You mean like the time he suggested Mark Oaten was a paedophile? Stuff like that?</p>
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		<title>By: Praguetory</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-3964</link>
		<dc:creator>Praguetory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author suggests that relative to the mainstream media Guido has no quality control, but can&#039;t actually summon up an actual example of false reporting.

The author wants things both ways. 

1. Guido is popular, but has no impact... (this article is about someone not making an impact haha)
2. Guido is an insider not that he ever breaks any stories...
3. You even appear to attack the fact that the blog is free!
4. Guido is being used, but channels his stories through the MSM. Square that circle. 

I think that you misunderstand his agenda. Sure he wants to run a successful media outlet, but I think he is far more interested in pulling politicians and especially Lefties down a few pegs. If he has a BIG story, he&#039;ll break it on his blog, but make sure it goes mainstream too. The upshot is that unrepentant, arrogant shits like Hain remain in the public eye for weeks as there&#039;s always a new thread to follow - and that&#039;s a good thing. All hail, Guido.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author suggests that relative to the mainstream media Guido has no quality control, but can&#8217;t actually summon up an actual example of false reporting.</p>
<p>The author wants things both ways. </p>
<p>1. Guido is popular, but has no impact&#8230; (this article is about someone not making an impact haha)<br />
2. Guido is an insider not that he ever breaks any stories&#8230;<br />
3. You even appear to attack the fact that the blog is free!<br />
4. Guido is being used, but channels his stories through the MSM. Square that circle. </p>
<p>I think that you misunderstand his agenda. Sure he wants to run a successful media outlet, but I think he is far more interested in pulling politicians and especially Lefties down a few pegs. If he has a BIG story, he&#8217;ll break it on his blog, but make sure it goes mainstream too. The upshot is that unrepentant, arrogant shits like Hain remain in the public eye for weeks as there&#8217;s always a new thread to follow &#8211; and that&#8217;s a good thing. All hail, Guido.</p>
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		<title>By: Binty Uhuru</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-3962</link>
		<dc:creator>Binty Uhuru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something that everyone has missed in the interview Guido gave the Today programme yesterday is that he almost admitted he sells his best stories to the tabloids first before blogging them - something I heard from somebody in a Sunday&#039;s newsroom a while back.  He would not want his readers to know that.

Listen to the interview again and you can see he changed tack when he realised he was making an admission that would dismay his fans and euphemistically said he &quot;coordinated&quot; stories.

He was torn by wanting to boast that he gets the scoops but not wanting to admit that he gives it to the readers of the &quot;Dead Tree Press&quot; before his own readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something that everyone has missed in the interview Guido gave the Today programme yesterday is that he almost admitted he sells his best stories to the tabloids first before blogging them &#8211; something I heard from somebody in a Sunday&#8217;s newsroom a while back.  He would not want his readers to know that.</p>
<p>Listen to the interview again and you can see he changed tack when he realised he was making an admission that would dismay his fans and euphemistically said he &#8220;coordinated&#8221; stories.</p>
<p>He was torn by wanting to boast that he gets the scoops but not wanting to admit that he gives it to the readers of the &#8220;Dead Tree Press&#8221; before his own readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Linford</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-3961</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Linford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree with this article in so far as I think we are seeing the emergence of a new elite, namely a small group of uber-bloggers who, by sheer virtue of their success and the size of their blogs, are now effectively a part of the mainstream political media, without necessarily signing-up to its herd mentality or some of its more arcane practices.  

On the whole, though, I think Justin is being, as they say, a bit harsh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree with this article in so far as I think we are seeing the emergence of a new elite, namely a small group of uber-bloggers who, by sheer virtue of their success and the size of their blogs, are now effectively a part of the mainstream political media, without necessarily signing-up to its herd mentality or some of its more arcane practices.  </p>
<p>On the whole, though, I think Justin is being, as they say, a bit harsh.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin McKeating</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-3958</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin McKeating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 12:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Scrutiny of politicians is a fairly unalloyed good thing and part of a real democracy.&lt;/i&gt;

Where did I say it isn&#039;t?

And that&#039;s right, I question a blogger&#039;s methods and impact and I&#039;m arguing against democracy. Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Scrutiny of politicians is a fairly unalloyed good thing and part of a real democracy.</i></p>
<p>Where did I say it isn&#8217;t?</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s right, I question a blogger&#8217;s methods and impact and I&#8217;m arguing against democracy. Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Praguetory</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-3955</link>
		<dc:creator>Praguetory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scrutiny of politicians is a fairly unalloyed good thing and part of a real democracy. That&#039;s what Guido does. I&#039;m a satisfied customer. 

Not sure what your motivation is for this article? When the Tories get in, you could write a similar argument. It would be an argument  against democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scrutiny of politicians is a fairly unalloyed good thing and part of a real democracy. That&#8217;s what Guido does. I&#8217;m a satisfied customer. </p>
<p>Not sure what your motivation is for this article? When the Tories get in, you could write a similar argument. It would be an argument  against democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: DonaldS</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2008/01/18/the-new-breed-same-as-the-old-breed/#comment-3953</link>
		<dc:creator>DonaldS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 11:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lay off Noel, you bastard.

And you ought to be thankful we&#039;ve got a former Young Conservative Margaux-slurping hedge fund manager to take on the elites of this country, you ungrateful shmuck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lay off Noel, you bastard.</p>
<p>And you ought to be thankful we&#8217;ve got a former Young Conservative Margaux-slurping hedge fund manager to take on the elites of this country, you ungrateful shmuck.</p>
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		<title>By: How much did Drudge change?</title>
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		<dc:creator>How much did Drudge change?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] McKeating of Chicken Yoghurt offers a counterpoint to Guido&#8217;s love letter to Drudge over on Liberal Conspiracy. I can&#8217;t read such a superb introduction without passing it on: Yesterday marked the tenth [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] McKeating of Chicken Yoghurt offers a counterpoint to Guido&#8217;s love letter to Drudge over on Liberal Conspiracy. I can&#8217;t read such a superb introduction without passing it on: Yesterday marked the tenth [...]</p>
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