But there *isn’t* space for moral relativism, is there??

You are rather (and correctly) highlighting inconsistency/hypocrisy.

As fringe as they are, I believe that the AWL have been playing the “No moral relativism” card, as well as being pretty good on abortion rights in this country and others.

Although I may be wrong, as I’m not a big follower of their (or any other trots) specific areas of policy.

Well, it’s nice of you boys to join in on stuff like this, so we don’t all look like ranting hormonal harpies…

Better late than never, eh Sunny?

What exactly is your web empire going to do about it, beyond talk?

While I agree with what you are saying here, there is nothing wrong with noting that in our own country we still get this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=503112&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

What exactly is your web empire going to do about it, beyond talk?

Um, what would you suggest I / we do about it?

I’d suggest that Liberal Conspiracy takes up the themes we have seen on PP. That women are equal, that women have an equal voice. That they are entitled to equal treatment. You are no shrinking violet when it comes to womens issues. You have stood up and been counted. I respect you for that.

You could, perhaps, encourage Desi Italiana to write here, or Sonia Ali to comment. It would make a hell of a difference. It might break LC out of appearing to be a somewhat backbiting, old mens club. You need the women, I think.

I think you need to consider that.

- promote MixTogether

- promote Jasvinder Sanghera and Karma Nirvana

- investigate why the Foreign Office is the only government department taking real action against ‘honour’-based violence (HBV)

- encourage other bloggers to fill the masive gap in coverage of honour-related news stories (try finding some- there are hardly any)

- cast the web occasionally for HBV topics

- promote the fact that it is not just a womens issue, not just a Muslim issue and not just an issue for non-whites

…as a few ideas.

Take it from me, the pieces are in motion right now and 2008 is going to be a massive year for change in the UK. If Liberal Conspiracy really adopts HBV as a cause, it will play a part in something truly significant and cement its liberal credentials.

No comment?

I’m with Douglas: more women contributors on this site would be a start. Alix Mortimer? Charlotte Gore?

Jasvinder Sanghera?

(I don’t think anyone’s listening…)

Hello,

This isn’t a forum just to promote HBV but when it happens we will highlight it. As you may know, I do a lot of highlighting on my own blog PP and have frequently written about it for the Guardian’s Comment is Free. Jasvinder Sanghera is one person among many others who do good work in the area and I like to promote all of them. I’m in regular vontact with Southall Black Sisters amongst others. Plus we have other feminists like Czth Elliot, Jess McCabe, Zoha Moosa and Natalie Bennett writing for us (when they get time that is).

Jennie – I did invite Charlotte to submit an article, which she said she would work on… but everyone has time committments I guess.