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	<title>Comments on: Ken Livingstone&#8217;s report on Islamophobia</title>
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		<title>By: Blogger News Network / Islamophobia &#8212; A Dangerous Misdirection</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2007/11/15/ken-livingstones-report-on-islamophobia/#comment-1407</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogger News Network / Islamophobia &#8212; A Dangerous Misdirection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Liberal Conspiracy:  Ken Livingstone’s report on Islamophobia [...]</description>
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		<title>By: anticant</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2007/11/15/ken-livingstones-report-on-islamophobia/#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator>anticant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 08:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the first places where a liberal conspiracy is urgently needed is the &#039;Guardian&#039;. Having been a lifetime reader and occasional contributor, I&#039;ve long refused to post on the ludicrously named &#039;Comment is Free&#039; because of its hypocritical censorship. C.P. Scott must be revolving in his grave!

As for Livingstone&#039;s latest pathetic effort in dhimmitude, the debate about Islam should not be focussed on the minor issue of media reporting [which we all know is badly skewed on most issues], but on the apparent incompatibility of Islam with an open, pluralistic society, the reluctance of Muslims to meld into the wider society around them instead of sticking out like a sore thumb, and the inescapable fact that tolerance is a two-way street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the first places where a liberal conspiracy is urgently needed is the &#8216;Guardian&#8217;. Having been a lifetime reader and occasional contributor, I&#8217;ve long refused to post on the ludicrously named &#8216;Comment is Free&#8217; because of its hypocritical censorship. C.P. Scott must be revolving in his grave!</p>
<p>As for Livingstone&#8217;s latest pathetic effort in dhimmitude, the debate about Islam should not be focussed on the minor issue of media reporting [which we all know is badly skewed on most issues], but on the apparent incompatibility of Islam with an open, pluralistic society, the reluctance of Muslims to meld into the wider society around them instead of sticking out like a sore thumb, and the inescapable fact that tolerance is a two-way street.</p>
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		<title>By: G. Tingey</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2007/11/15/ken-livingstones-report-on-islamophobia/#comment-1000</link>
		<dc:creator>G. Tingey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds familar......

I am currently BANNED form the falsely-named &quot;Comment is free&quot; site on/in the &quot;Guardian, because I gave a factual description of a religion (I&#039;m an atheist) and that religion was islam.
I stated, that it was: Mediaval, intolerant and cruel.

No argument, no discussion - you&#039;r banned, by a so-called &quot;liberal&quot; newspaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds familar&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>I am currently BANNED form the falsely-named &#8220;Comment is free&#8221; site on/in the &#8220;Guardian, because I gave a factual description of a religion (I&#8217;m an atheist) and that religion was islam.<br />
I stated, that it was: Mediaval, intolerant and cruel.</p>
<p>No argument, no discussion &#8211; you&#8217;r banned, by a so-called &#8220;liberal&#8221; newspaper.</p>
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		<title>By: GagWatch &#187; London’s PC despot</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2007/11/15/ken-livingstones-report-on-islamophobia/#comment-886</link>
		<dc:creator>GagWatch &#187; London’s PC despot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 21:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] entire team behind the report is a member of - or connected to - the Muslim Council of Britain. Unsurprisingly, the report concludes that the media [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] entire team behind the report is a member of &#8211; or connected to &#8211; the Muslim Council of Britain. Unsurprisingly, the report concludes that the media [...]</p>
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		<title>By: septicisle</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2007/11/15/ken-livingstones-report-on-islamophobia/#comment-879</link>
		<dc:creator>septicisle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 19:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mostly agree, and wrote my own post on the MCB&#039;s advice to schools at the time (http://www.septicisle.info/2007/02/express-watch-muslims-to-kill-all-of-us.html), but did you actually read some of the coverage of that report?  Some of it was disgustingly disingenuous, especially that in the Express, which was full of complete lies about what the report said.  Five Chinese Crackers fisked it at the time: http://5cc.blogspot.com/2007/02/more-bullshit-from-express.html

It&#039;s also all well and good to make jokes about the report being &quot;Taliban-style&quot;, but if it was it would have been advocating that girls shouldn&#039;t be taught at all, which it most certainly was not.  I think the MCB complained to the PCC about the article, but the PCC website is completely useless for finding anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mostly agree, and wrote my own post on the MCB&#8217;s advice to schools at the time (<a href="http://www.septicisle.info/2007/02/express-watch-muslims-to-kill-all-of-us.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.septicisle.info/2007/02/express-watch-muslims-to-kill-all-of-us.html)</a>, but did you actually read some of the coverage of that report?  Some of it was disgustingly disingenuous, especially that in the Express, which was full of complete lies about what the report said.  Five Chinese Crackers fisked it at the time: <a href="http://5cc.blogspot.com/2007/02/more-bullshit-from-express.html" rel="nofollow">http://5cc.blogspot.com/2007/02/more-bullshit-from-express.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s also all well and good to make jokes about the report being &#8220;Taliban-style&#8221;, but if it was it would have been advocating that girls shouldn&#8217;t be taught at all, which it most certainly was not.  I think the MCB complained to the PCC about the article, but the PCC website is completely useless for finding anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunny Hundal</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2007/11/15/ken-livingstones-report-on-islamophobia/#comment-859</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunny Hundal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, this whole thing looks like a farce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, this whole thing looks like a farce.</p>
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		<title>By: Shuggy</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2007/11/15/ken-livingstones-report-on-islamophobia/#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>Shuggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing missing from the report is any sense of context.  I mean, how many stories about &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; in the media are &#039;positive&#039;?  I&#039;d also doubt Livingstone would apply the logic of his conclusions to media coverage of Israel.

P.S.  Could you &lt;i&gt;please&lt;/i&gt; stop this lower case rendering of words like &#039;Muslims&#039; and &#039;Jews&#039;?  Apart from anything else, you don&#039;t apply your made up rules regarding proper nouns consistently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing missing from the report is any sense of context.  I mean, how many stories about <i>anything</i> in the media are &#8216;positive&#8217;?  I&#8217;d also doubt Livingstone would apply the logic of his conclusions to media coverage of Israel.</p>
<p>P.S.  Could you <i>please</i> stop this lower case rendering of words like &#8216;Muslims&#8217; and &#8216;Jews&#8217;?  Apart from anything else, you don&#8217;t apply your made up rules regarding proper nouns consistently.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Thornhill</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2007/11/15/ken-livingstones-report-on-islamophobia/#comment-832</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Thornhill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for exposing yet more MCB propaganda.

They even have the audacity to suggest they are &quot;elected representatives&quot; - yeh, right, elected amongst a bunch of men, some of whom have significant and rather shady agendae.

When is the Muslim community going to kick these charlatans into touch? Not letting them use the term &quot;Council&quot;  might be a start - it implies State, legal or democratic authority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for exposing yet more MCB propaganda.</p>
<p>They even have the audacity to suggest they are &#8220;elected representatives&#8221; &#8211; yeh, right, elected amongst a bunch of men, some of whom have significant and rather shady agendae.</p>
<p>When is the Muslim community going to kick these charlatans into touch? Not letting them use the term &#8220;Council&#8221;  might be a start &#8211; it implies State, legal or democratic authority.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Adams</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2007/11/15/ken-livingstones-report-on-islamophobia/#comment-831</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 09:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well whatever one thinks of the MCB there must be a clear conflict of interest in having three of its members in the team producing this report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well whatever one thinks of the MCB there must be a clear conflict of interest in having three of its members in the team producing this report.</p>
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		<title>By: gracchi</title>
		<link>http://liberalconspiracy.org/2007/11/15/ken-livingstones-report-on-islamophobia/#comment-820</link>
		<dc:creator>gracchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes indeed. Everytime I&#039;ve ever &lt;a href=&quot;http://gracchii.blogspot.com/2007/11/bungling-of-bunglawala.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read&lt;/a&gt; Bunglawala he comes across as either duplicitous or an idiot. The MCB are a group that I think we should be very cautious of and giving them money from the government seems to me to be a very dangerous thing. They have their own agenda, quite a bit of which seems to be reactionary, they want us to think of Muslims as a monolith behind them which is quite frankly ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes indeed. Everytime I&#8217;ve ever <a href="http://gracchii.blogspot.com/2007/11/bungling-of-bunglawala.html" rel="nofollow">read</a> Bunglawala he comes across as either duplicitous or an idiot. The MCB are a group that I think we should be very cautious of and giving them money from the government seems to me to be a very dangerous thing. They have their own agenda, quite a bit of which seems to be reactionary, they want us to think of Muslims as a monolith behind them which is quite frankly ridiculous.</p>
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